My point was that using other questionable scoring methods to call RT into question doesn’t make logical sense.
But it makes perfect sense. If you measure the same thing with different methods and none of the results agree, it’s perfectly logical to assume that any or all of the methods are flawed.
No, it doesn’t make sense. He said RT is flawed and he pointed to other sources he considers more definitive to support his argument. I’m the one who posited that they’re all likely flawed in some way.
The way I understood it, he used these other scores to point out that there are disagreements. And because of these disagreements, RT shouldn’t be seen as definite prove that most people dislike or hate the movie.
Yup, you got it exactly right, probably because you weren’t putting words into my mouth like “more definitive.”
Which isn’t to say I think RT isn’t less definitive (it’s up for debate), just that whether one is more or less definitive is completely beside the point.
And we’re not measuring the same thing. While there’s almost certainly some crossover in the samples, CinemaScore’s audience isn’t IMDB’s and isn’t RT’s.
All of these sites try to measure how a movie was received by the audience as a whole. Sure, they use different samples, but they certainly claim to reflect an overall opinion and that’s also how they are used in discussions. The different methods are how the score is calculated and related to the bigger population. And a free-for-all approach without much regulations, like RT and IMDB, is definitely biased by simply taking the average of all scores without compensating for differences between users and regular audiences. This doesn’t mean a more controlled poll has no bias at all, but there certainly is a difference between bias and heavy bias.
Exactly. That they’re “not measuring the same thing” is precisely the problem because they say they actually are. You can’t say that RT is accurately measuring all audiences when they’re clearly just measuring the audience members who took the time to sign up and rate the movie, which is by no means a representative sample.