The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit — Page 8

Ronster said:

DominicCobb said:

Ronster said:

Political correctness is a framework of how to “act” (big key word there) or what can be said or what can’t be said and what is safe and won’t offend anyone.

But by stiffling actors so nobody can be offended by anything they could possiblg do i.e. the script is made safe for political corectfulness. The actors look like cardboard wooden and rubbish.

They are actually capable of much more but the material and the framework within which they are confined and boundaries that can not be crossed. The performances are bland and stiffled.

Yet the example you used was Natalie Portman in the PT, where she is wooden not because of political correctness (how fucking ridiculous an idea is it that pc makes actors wooden, not to mention the PT isn’t exactly politically correct), but because George Lucas wrote a script with shit dialogue and didn’t direct his actors well.

No It is not ridiculous at all. If it’s just even bad scripts it still is not going down well. If all actors have to work with is rubbish scripts it’s still not an excuse for all the money in Hollywood.

It is totally inexcuseable which ever way you look at it. There are plenty of actors and actresses that give far better performances outside of the blockbuster trash.

Yeah okay, maybe if George Lucas was writing everyone’s scripts we’d have a serious problem on our hands. But since he’s actually retired, I think we’re good.

Not to mention this still has literally nothing to do with political correctness, but whatever.

I have nothing else to say to you. In fact any of you at this time.

Fine by me.

Your continued assessment of a film you haven’t seen is appreciated as always.

Possessed said:

Your continued assessment of a film you haven’t seen is appreciated as always.

I am not assessing the film i am assessing the politics around the film and around blockbusters in general.

Black swan was an independant production of around 4 small studios distributed by fox searchlight

Ronster said:

I have nothing else to say to you. In fact any of you at this time.

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Possessed I’m not sure if you should be honored or insulted that you aren’t included in any of us.

Hal 9000 said:

Replace all women with Nicolas Cage via that app?

Lmao! That stuff is hilarious. Have you seen the Titanic one?

SparkySywer said:

MalàStrana said:

And yeah at one point Luke was a girl… but in the finished film he’s a “he”, not a “she”, and if you switch that the movie is no longer the same.

Ignoring the fact you’d have to replace the actors, how would it be any different?

Edit: Shit, this thread was dead and I hope I didn’t just revive it

Believe it or not, but I’m actually planning to re-do this edit in HD now that the Blu-Ray is out. I already made a rough draft of it, and with all the extra footage from deleted scenes, and original ideas I’ll drop in this edit, I ended up with a rough draft of 116 minutes instead of 46.

The goal of my edit is to preserve some ideas of the original creator like Leia being killed, no admiral purple-hair and Poe doing the lightspeed suicide, but no cutting Rey’s training and no Luke being blasted by a single AT-M6 (seriously;, what on earth was he thinking? I get he didn’t like Luke doing a Force projection, but this was supposed to be a good alternative?)

Once I have the Blu-Ray, I can start making the final cut.

What

OutboundFlight said:

Chris358cp said:

Believe it or not, but I’m actually planning to re-do this edit in HD now that the Blu-Ray is out.

Your cutlist sounds fairly reasonable, make your own thread or put it in the ideas thread. Don’t relate it to this garbage, everyone will hate you and the edit for it.

Seconded.

Hmmm…I’m gonna say that cutting “admiral purple-hair” and calling your edit the “Gender Equalized Cut” does not sound fairly reasonable.

TV’s Frink said:

Hmmm…I’m gonna say that cutting “admiral purple-hair” and calling your edit the “Gender Equalized Cut” does not sound fairly reasonable.

“Admiral purple-hair” isn’t that bad if you just can’t remember her name, it’s a pretty defining characteristic of her character, and at the time he hadn’t made his new thread with that title for the edit.

The purple hair is a blatant ignoring of the rules of the Star Wars universe that Lucas has carefully crafted over the course of 35 years.

Think about it. Lucas threw all sorts of weird stuff at us, including spherical space stations, green aliens with horns, 10ft tall slugs, 1000 degree swords and dozens of alien planets, but he never, EVER shoved humans with weird hair colors down our throats.

The Last Jedi payed homage to so many parts of Lucas’ original work, but they completely ruined it by having this one character with a very outstanding characteristic in marked contrast with everything else the series ever had up until then. That was for me the primary reason this character had to go completely. It had nothing to do with her gender, or the fact she didn’t tell Poe the plan (although that was pretty stupid). If she hadn’t had purple hair, I probably would have allowed her to stay in the film with her lightspeed suicide.

Chris358cp said:

The purple hair is a blatant ignoring of the rules of the Star Wars universe that Lucas has carefully crafted over the course of 35 years.

Think about it. Lucas threw all sorts of weird stuff at us, including spherical space stations, green aliens with horns, 10ft tall slugs, 1000 degree swords and dozens of alien planets, but he never, EVER shoved humans with weird hair colors down our throats.

The Last Jedi payed homage to so many parts of Lucas’ original work, but they completely ruined it by having this one character with a very outstanding characteristic in marked contrast with everything else the series ever had up until then. That was for me the primary reason this character had to go completely. It had nothing to do with her gender, or the fact she didn’t tell Poe the plan (although that was pretty stupid). If she hadn’t had purple hair, I probably would have allowed her to stay in the film with her lightspeed suicide.

Wow. I mean… wow. This is so perfectly silly I’m almost not convinced its not parody.

Oh my god, you can’t be serious.

ChainsawAsh said:

TV’s Frink said:

Hmmm…I’m gonna say that cutting “admiral purple-hair” and calling your edit the “Gender Equalized Cut” does not sound fairly reasonable.

“Admiral purple-hair” isn’t that bad if you just can’t remember her name, it’s a pretty defining characteristic of her character

Lol.

I mean, I don’t know why purple hair defines her character, but one bro in this thread agrees completely.

I didn’t say it defined her character, I said it was a defining characteristic. I don’t see anything wrong with using a physical characteristic as a description when talking about a character whose name you can’t remember. It’s just like saying “you know, the bald dude” if you’re talking about Locke from Lost.

Chris358cp said:

The purple hair is a blatant ignoring of the rules of the Star Wars universe that Lucas has carefully crafted over the course of 35 years.

Think about it. Lucas threw all sorts of weird stuff at us, including spherical space stations, green aliens with horns, 10ft tall slugs, 1000 degree swords and dozens of alien planets, but he never, EVER shoved humans with weird hair colors down our throats.

The Last Jedi payed homage to so many parts of Lucas’ original work, but they completely ruined it by having this one character with a very outstanding characteristic in marked contrast with everything else the series ever had up until then. That was for me the primary reason this character had to go completely. It had nothing to do with her gender, or the fact she didn’t tell Poe the plan (although that was pretty stupid). If she hadn’t had purple hair, I probably would have allowed her to stay in the film with her lightspeed suicide.

Okay, nevermind, you completely fucking lost me there. So no one in the SW universe is allowed to use hair dye? Really?

First of all, that was a background character with zero dialogue (if we ignore her singing Jedi Rocks). Second of all, I’m not even sure she’s human.

Coming back to the comment of hair-dyeing, I’m annoyed by the fact Disney has introduced main characters with weird hair colors, while Lucas never did that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m open to new stuff in Star Wars: new spaceships, new planets, new lightsabers, etc. I’m perfectly fine with that. But outstanding hair colors feel so out of place in Star Wars, that stuff should belong in anime.

I think my distaste of anime hair in TLJ is no different than the fan reaction to the toilet humour in TPM. On both occasions we got something that didn’t feel like Star Wars at all, and fans were pissed off.

Chris358cp said:

First of all, that was a background character with zero dialogue (if we ignore her singing Jedi Rocks). Second of all, I’m not even sure she’s human.

Coming back to the comment of hair-dyeing, I’m annoyed by the fact Disney has introduced main characters with weird hair colors, while Lucas never did that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m open to new stuff in Star Wars: new spaceships, new planets, new lightsabers, etc. I’m perfectly fine with that. But outstanding hair colors feel so out of place in Star Wars, that stuff should belong in anime.

I think my distaste of anime hair in TLJ is no different than the fan reaction to the toilet humour in TPM. On both occasions we got something that didn’t feel like Star Wars at all, and fans were pissed off.

This is ridiculous.

ChainsawAsh said:

I didn’t say it defined her character, I said it was a defining characteristic. I don’t see anything wrong with using a physical characteristic as a description when talking about a character whose name you can’t remember. It’s just like saying “you know, the bald dude” if you’re talking about Locke from Lost.

Well yeah but then you read the guy’s other posts and I think you see my point.