Relevant to this topic and Wook’s post, blasters removed from Solo movie posters: https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-posters-gun-free/
Who cares?
Anyone whose judgement isn’t clouded by political correctness insanity
LOL
Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.
First Blood is a really bad example, I take it you haven’t seen that film in awhile - it’d actually more sense if Rambo didn’t have a machine gun on the poster.
I know the movie. I’m saying that’s a movie that they wouldn’t want to advertise the violence in because there’s more to it than that.
Oh, I completely misread the comparison you were making (missed the word “not” in “it’s not like…”). My bad.
Anyway, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have guns on the poster, just saying it’s not that egregious if they don’t.
You don’t find it kind of uncomfortable that they delete things to avoid offending people? Granted, this isn’t art, it’s a marketing object, but it’s still close.
I don’t think it’s done to avoid “offending people.” The sight of guns doesn’t “offend” people (the word “offend” is misused way too often these days). It’s marketing materials, like you said. So the goal is to cater to the audience, if they think the audience is less likely to see it if every character is holding a gun, that’s a fair marketing move to make.
I get what you’re saying. I’m not bothered by this because it’s “censorship” because it’s not. I’m not bothered by it at all because it’s just marketing, but I think it’s a clear example of laziness. They want a character shot without a gun so they just erase the gun and have it look like crap. Ugly. Sad. Lazy.
Mhm. And like Wook says, Brazil has its own standards.
To Dom’s point, people care about these kinds of things more than they might when they perceive a political or social agenda at work, whether or not it’s true.
That doesn’t make the outrage any less silly.
I don’t think so, Dom.
If Disney changed the PotC ride decades ago in response to religious objections, I think people would be reasonably annoyed about it.
Depends what the alterations were. In the case of the most recent alteration to the ride, the reasoning could be construed as “the feminist agenda,” which absolutely makes the outrage silly (how dare we not demean women!). In the case of removing guns from a poster, the connection to an agenda is tenuous - some of these posters don’t feature characters with guns which means they’re promoting gun control? By that logic any poster that doesn’t feature guns is promoting gun control.
Can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me or not. Seems to me that both the agenda of those making a change as well as what the change is can reasonably bother people. If it’s not clear from my first post, this change to the Disney ride doesn’t bother me.
You frame the possible agenda here in positive terms so that any objector is a cretin. But the objection as I understand it has to do with political correctness and a view that the old ride didn’t demean women. People can argue that amongst themselves.
The blue elephant in the room.
This is the most ridiculous thread i have seen in a while. Why exactly should we be up in arms that a them park, (mostly a child-hood affair) decided to not show rape as reason for humor?
They aren’t changing the history books last i checked.
I’m only taking this semi seriously, as I did invoke Pirates of The Pancreas which itself is a commentary on how ridiculous it is to be upset over a ride based on pirates in the first place. I should point out adding Jack Sparrow and other movie elements to the ride also generated a lot of controversy in Disney theme park fan circles.
Nobody ever complains about that lady pirate portrait, (who happens to be the very popular redhead getting bid on in the auction) or the real human skull in one scene of the ride though. 😉
Where were you in '77?
Relevant to this topic and Wook’s post, blasters removed from Solo movie posters: https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-posters-gun-free/
Who cares?
Anyone whose judgement is clouded by anti political correctness insanity
Broken.
Fixed.
So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?
Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.
As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.
Some of us don’t like it when they go back and change movies. Some of us prefer movies how they originally were. Welcome to originaltrilogy.com.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around a Disney ride based on a movie we can’t legally purchase on DVD or Blu-Ray. 😉
which ride and movie is that?
I still have trouble wrapping my head around a Disney ride based on a movie we can’t legally purchase on DVD or Blu-Ray. 😉
which ride and movie is that?
Song of the South, I think?
Even then, from what I understand, Walt himself was uncomfortable with the scene, thinking it was “un-Disney.”
what scene do you refer to?
So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?
Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.
As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.
Some of us don’t like it when they go back and change movies. Some of us prefer movies how they originally were. Welcome to originaltrilogy.com.
This is true.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Knick-Knack-Boobs-Restoration/id/17679/page/1
Thank god for the anti-PC heroes at originaltrilogy.com. I sleep easy at night knowing you guys are here to make the world great again.
Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.
First Blood is a really bad example, I take it you haven’t seen that film in awhile - it’d actually more sense if Rambo didn’t have a machine gun on the poster.
I know the movie. I’m saying that’s a movie that they wouldn’t want to advertise the violence in because there’s more to it than that.
Oh, I completely misread the comparison you were making (missed the word “not” in “it’s not like…”). My bad.
Anyway, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have guns on the poster, just saying it’s not that egregious if they don’t.
You don’t find it kind of uncomfortable that they delete things to avoid offending people? Granted, this isn’t art, it’s a marketing object, but it’s still close.
I don’t think it’s done to avoid “offending people.” The sight of guns doesn’t “offend” people (the word “offend” is misused way too often these days). It’s marketing materials, like you said. So the goal is to cater to the audience, if they think the audience is less likely to see it if every character is holding a gun, that’s a fair marketing move to make.
I get what you’re saying. I’m not bothered by this because it’s “censorship” because it’s not. I’m not bothered by it at all because it’s just marketing, but I think it’s a clear example of laziness. They want a character shot without a gun so they just erase the gun and have it look like crap. Ugly. Sad. Lazy.
Mhm. And like Wook says, Brazil has its own standards.
To Dom’s point, people care about these kinds of things more than they might when they perceive a political or social agenda at work, whether or not it’s true.
That doesn’t make the outrage any less silly.
I don’t think so, Dom.
If Disney changed the PotC ride decades ago in response to religious objections, I think people would be reasonably annoyed about it.
Depends what the alterations were. In the case of the most recent alteration to the ride, the reasoning could be construed as “the feminist agenda,” which absolutely makes the outrage silly (how dare we not demean women!). In the case of removing guns from a poster, the connection to an agenda is tenuous - some of these posters don’t feature characters with guns which means they’re promoting gun control? By that logic any poster that doesn’t feature guns is promoting gun control.
Can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me or not. Seems to me that both the agenda of those making a change as well as what the change is can reasonably bother people. If it’s not clear from my first post, this change to the Disney ride doesn’t bother me.
You frame the possible agenda here in positive terms so that any objector is a cretin. But the objection as I understand it has to do with political correctness and a view that the old ride didn’t demean women. People can argue that amongst themselves.
My initial statement (that if they’re outraged because of an agenda doesn’t make it any less silly), was in regards to the subjects in question. These particular outrages are silly, and that they think it’s because of an agenda doesn’t make it any less silly.
Cretin is not how I’d describe all of them, mostly they’re just people wasting their time and energy getting worked up about nothing. Framing the potential agenda in positive terms is just natural, there’s nothing nefarious about removing something that many people find demeaning to women, whether it objectively is or isn’t (of course, hard to apply objectivity in something such as this).
As for fighting against the “PC agenda,” I’ll rarely ever find that not silly.
deleted.
He was being a pathetic person. He repented later. Thankfully people can change.
Fuck you.
If this was meant seriously, he should get a warning just like I did when I did it to Frink.
It wasn’t. You should read all the following posts before you respond.
So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?
Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.
As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.
Some of us don’t like it when they go back and change movies. Some of us prefer movies how they originally were. Welcome to originaltrilogy.com.
This is true.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Knick-Knack-Boobs-Restoration/id/17679/page/1
Thank god for the anti-PC heroes at originaltrilogy.com. I sleep easy at night knowing you guys are here to make the world great again.
I just knew you were going to exhume that one.
Where were you in '77?
So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?
Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.
As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.
Some of us don’t like it when they go back and change movies. Some of us prefer movies how they originally were. Welcome to originaltrilogy.com.
This is true.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Knick-Knack-Boobs-Restoration/id/17679/page/1
Thank god for the anti-PC heroes at originaltrilogy.com. I sleep easy at night knowing you guys are here to make the world great again.
I just knew you were going to exhume that one.
It will never not be ridiculous.
He was being a pathetic person. He repented later. Thankfully people can change.
Fuck you.
If this was meant seriously, he should get a warning just like I did when I did it to Frink.
It wasn’t. You should read all the following posts before you respond.
I have deleted the post.
There are entire rides that have come and gone from Disney parks over the years, so a scene change on one ride means little, if anything to me.
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This is the most ridiculous thread i have seen in a while. Why exactly should we be up in arms that a them park, (mostly a child-hood affair) decided to not show rape as reason for humor?
They aren’t changing the history books last i checked.
Wait the Pirates of the Caribbean shows actual rape? I don’t remember that when I was on it.
In any case. I was not complaining about changing the ride, I was complaining about the removal of blasters from the Star Wars posters.
This is the most ridiculous thread i have seen in a while. Why exactly should we be up in arms that a them park, (mostly a child-hood affair) decided to not show rape as reason for humor?
They aren’t changing the history books last i checked.
Careful, logic is not allowed in here.
You’re telling me its not.
Relevant to this topic and Wook’s post, blasters removed from Solo movie posters: https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-posters-gun-free/
Who cares?
Anyone whose judgement isn’t clouded by political correctness insanity
LOL
I find this offensive and demeaning. I ask you to stop. Remember it is not how you intended it that matters, but how it feels to me.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around a Disney ride based on a movie we can’t legally purchase on DVD or Blu-Ray. 😉
which ride and movie is that?
Song of the South, I think?
There is a ride about Song of the South? I didn’t know that.
There are entire rides that have come and gone from Disney parks over the years, so a scene change on one ride means little, if anything to me.
I still lament the loss of Journey Through Inner Space, the first Disney ride I can recall going on when I was little, even though Star Tours took it’s place.
I also miss the People Mover and even the Rocket Jets, even though I feared the rocket I was in would somehow snap off and I’d go sailing in a graceful arc over Space Mountain and into the Disneyland parking lot to my doom! 😛
Where were you in '77?
So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?
Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.
As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.
Some of us don’t like it when they go back and change movies. Some of us prefer movies how they originally were. Welcome to originaltrilogy.com.
This is true.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Knick-Knack-Boobs-Restoration/id/17679/page/1
Thank god for the anti-PC heroes at originaltrilogy.com. I sleep easy at night knowing you guys are here to make the world great again.
I am not even sure how that thread applies to me. I have no idea what it is about and I don’t remember ever posting in it. Nonetheless, this site is dedicated to the idea the movies should be preserved how they originally were. You know, the whole “Han Shoots first” bit?
There are entire rides that have come and gone from Disney parks over the years, so a scene change on one ride means little, if anything to me.
Some rides are more iconic than others.
This is the most ridiculous thread i have seen in a while. Why exactly should we be up in arms that a them park, (mostly a child-hood affair) decided to not show rape as reason for humor?
They aren’t changing the history books last i checked.
Wait the Pirates of the Caribbean shows actual rape? I don’t remember that when I was on it.
In any case. I was not complaining about changing the ride, I was complaining about the removal of blasters from the Star Wars posters.
Are you just pretending not to get the point or do you really want me to explain it more.
Relevant to this topic and Wook’s post, blasters removed from Solo movie posters: https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-posters-gun-free/
Who cares?
Anyone whose judgement isn’t clouded by political correctness insanity
LOL
I find this offensive and demeaning. I ask you to stop. Remember it is not how you intended it that matters, but how it feels to me.
Ok, so how does it feel to you? Are you unsure of the context? I think your statement was ridiculous so I laughed. I should have also originally provided an explanation, but I’ve now done so.