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Pirates of the Caribbean and the Political Correctness Craze — Page 2

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DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

I can’t wait to get home tonight so I can show my seven-year-old daughter Saw.

Do it!

EDIT: Don’t show her Saw since Saw sucks, but at least show her Silence of the Lambs or something that is both gruesome and artistic.

I’d show my daughter Phenomena. Not only is Jennifer Connelly’s character a strong, capable female protagonist, there’s a swimming pool full of putrescent corpses, too.

Might inspire interest in STEM!

The blue elephant in the room.

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There’s worse things in real life for them to see. My policy on children is to show them quality art that won’t disturb them too much (but will at least disturb them a little).

The Person in Question

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It also applies to the outrage people get over incredibly minor things like this.

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moviefreakedmind said:

There’s worse things in real life for them to see.

Yes. And life is what you make it.

My policy on children is to show them quality art that won’t disturb them too much (but will at least disturb them a little).

It really depends on the child. Some children are more sensitive to certain things than others. Children are also very impressionable, and subjecting them to disturbing imagery for its own sake isn’t necessarily a good call.

Now, that being said, I have already shown my 3 year old daughter every one of the Disney animated feature films (some of which are pretty dark for a toddler). She was really worried about Ariel when Ursula gained power near the end of The Little Mermaid, but all I had to say was that “Eric has to fight the boss. Ursula is the boss.” because she has watched me play games as well as watched Let’s Plays so she understands the concept of the Big Bad in a story.

She’s not old enough for The Dark Crystal, though.

My position is that there is a middle ground between sheltering one’s kids and subjecting them to things. Life is certainly brutal, but what we subject ourselves to influences our outlook and attitudes, and one’s outlook and attitudes matter.

JEDIT: I know I said I wish media from streaming services was held to a similar censorship standard as TV, but the truth is I really just wish I could watch a show or have my family watch a show without wondering what sort of content it has. An expectation of having to do research on every show and movie is really annoying.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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DominicCobb said:

It also applies to the outrage people get over incredibly minor things like this.

I’m definitely not “outraged” by it, but if they had to do this they should have put more effort into making it still look good. It’s fine for most of it, but Han’s blasterless photoshop job looks quite silly because they didn’t change the position or look of his head and having him look like that but with his arms at his side looks a bit silly. The original poster was better.

I’m not “offended” that they decided to not have blasters on the poster or anything, but I do wish they would have gone about it better.

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Possessed said:

DominicCobb said:

It also applies to the outrage people get over incredibly minor things like this.

I’m definitely not “outraged” by it, but if they had to do this they should have put more effort into making it still look good. It’s fine for most of it, but Han’s blasterless photoshop job looks quite silly because they didn’t change the position or look of his head and having him look like that but with his arms at his side looks a bit silly. The original poster was better.

I’m not “offended” that they decided to not have blasters on the poster or anything, but I do wish they would have gone about it better.

I agree.

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I just think it’s funny that we’re expected to be entertained by violence while simultaneously pretending that there the subject is less violent than it is.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I just think it’s funny that we’re expected to be entertained by violence while simultaneously pretending that there the subject is less violent than it is.

I don’t think it’s quite that, it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster. Presumably there’s more to these characters than violence, so it’s not unreasonable to portray them without guns.

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Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.

First Blood is a really bad example, I take it you haven’t seen that film in awhile - it’d actually more sense if Rambo didn’t have a machine gun on the poster.

Anyway, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have guns on the poster, just saying it’s not that egregious if they don’t.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.

First Blood is a really bad example, I take it you haven’t seen that film in awhile - it’d actually more sense if Rambo didn’t have a machine gun on the poster.

I know the movie. I’m saying that’s a movie that they wouldn’t want to advertise the violence in because there’s more to it than that.

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Anyway, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have guns on the poster, just saying it’s not that egregious if they don’t.

You don’t find it kind of uncomfortable that they delete things to avoid offending people? Granted, this isn’t art, it’s a marketing object, but it’s still close.

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So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?

The blue elephant in the room.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Eh, the movie is about cheap thrills and space action. It’s not like wanting to advertise First Blood without weaponry because there’s more to the Rambo character (in that movie) than violence.

First Blood is a really bad example, I take it you haven’t seen that film in awhile - it’d actually more sense if Rambo didn’t have a machine gun on the poster.

I know the movie. I’m saying that’s a movie that they wouldn’t want to advertise the violence in because there’s more to it than that.

Oh, I completely misread the comparison you were making (missed the word “not” in “it’s not like…”). My bad.

DominicCobb said:

Anyway, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have guns on the poster, just saying it’s not that egregious if they don’t.

You don’t find it kind of uncomfortable that they delete things to avoid offending people? Granted, this isn’t art, it’s a marketing object, but it’s still close.

I don’t think it’s done to avoid “offending people.” The sight of guns doesn’t “offend” people (the word “offend” is misused way too often these days). It’s marketing materials, like you said. So the goal is to cater to the audience, if they think the audience is less likely to see it if every character is holding a gun, that’s a fair marketing move to make.

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Mrebo said:

So you’re a fan of the walkie talkies in ET? Or just annoyed with anybody who questions such a choice?

Are you talking to me? I literally said “it’s not like they’re removing guns from the movie, it’s just a poster.” There’s a big difference between a film and its marketing materials.

As for ET, I’ve legitimately never understood the walkie talkie complaint. I mean sure, was that really necessary? Nah. But honestly is it that big a deal? Judging by the reaction you see about it on the internet you’d think they’d replaced ET with the alien from Mac and Me, everyone acts like this small change ruins the whole movie.