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He does have a valid point though. As much as I love domino’s it does give me heartburn sometimes. I don’t have this problem with other pizza, but other pizza that’s actually decent isn’t usually cheap.
Yup, Domino’s is pretty much the only one that makes me feel sick even though it is decently tasty.
In today’s News of the Assholes:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/mississippi-toughest-abortion-ban/
Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, who has said his “goal is to end abortion” in his state, on Monday signed into law the earliest abortion ban in the country that’s in effect.
The law outlaws abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, and the only exceptions are in cases where the mother’s life is in danger or there is a fetal abnormality that is “incompatible with life.” Senators rejected an amendment that would have made exceptions for victims of rape or incest. Sen. Joey Fillingane (R-Sumrall) said such exceptions wouldn’t be necessary since women who become pregnant as a result of rape or incest would get an abortion right away because “you know immediately that you have been the victim of rape or incest.”
Fuck you, Mississippi.
In today’s News of the Assholes:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/mississippi-toughest-abortion-ban/
Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, who has said his “goal is to end abortion” in his state, on Monday signed into law the earliest abortion ban in the country that’s in effect.
The law outlaws abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, and the only exceptions are in cases where the mother’s life is in danger or there is a fetal abnormality that is “incompatible with life.” Senators rejected an amendment that would have made exceptions for victims of rape or incest. Sen. Joey Fillingane (R-Sumrall) said such exceptions wouldn’t be necessary since women who become pregnant as a result of rape or incest would get an abortion right away because “you know immediately that you have been the victim of rape or incest.”
Fuck you, Mississippi.
Mississippi, which has one functioning abortion clinic in the entire state. Because nothing turns your trauma frown upside-down like a road trip.
Undefined…
Mississippi can go do one.
Also even when you spell it correctly it looks wrong. They need to fix that shit too.
Get it together, Mississippi.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
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If that’s the sort of people they elect, better they don’t have national representation.
If Donald J. Trump is the sort of people Americans elect, better if they didn’t have international representation.
Hey, keep in mind that he lost our popular vote by about 3 million. Americans didn’t choose this man. Presumably the dumbass pile of crap in question was elected popularly.
Americans chose him. The alternative was no better. yhwx has a point and maybe we don’t deserve representation at all.
I get that your Trump apologia won’t be broken any time during this administration so I won’t bother with that, but how can you just disregard that he got significantly less votes than the other candidate in the election that Americans had to choose a president? Americans didn’t choose him. Our electoral college did. Americans did not choose him, you’re objectively wrong there. Americans chose Hillary Clinton to be President, but enough of the right states went to Trump, so that’s why he won.
My only apologia is for federalism and the Constitution. Given the party nominating processes you might argue Americans only had the illusion of choice anyway. My low regard for Clinton is no defense of Trump.
It is a defense of Trump. You’re shrugging off his awfulness by talking about how someone who isn’t President would be just as bad, even though everyone has forgotten about her and her career is dead and irrelevant now. I knew Trump people would never be able to stop bringing up Clinton even long after the election. You aren’t being apologetic for federalism and the Constitution, because then you’d be up in arms about Trump and his cronies. The new plan for the war on drugs (which in and of itself is unconstitutional) is yet another example of his disdain for federalism. He’s only interested in state’s rights when it comes to denying people civil liberties. Everything else is big government, just right-wing big government.
The Person in Question
Trump appointed an extremely Conservative judge to the Supreme Court so nothing else matters.
Supposedly.
That’s what makes Trump so terrible, actually. Funnily enough, that’s going to be his most long-lasting offense. It puts things like Roe v. Wade, gay marriage/anti-discrimination laws, affirmative action, and separation of church and state at risk.
EDIT: By the way, I know you agree with me, I’m just throwing in my two cents on this.
The Person in Question
People advocating that teachers be armed and armed guards be stationed in schools are a threat to the safety of American children. If I had children, I would consider anyone advocating for such lunacy to be my enemy.
The Person in Question
If that’s the sort of people they elect, better they don’t have national representation.
If Donald J. Trump is the sort of people Americans elect, better if they didn’t have international representation.
Hey, keep in mind that he lost our popular vote by about 3 million. Americans didn’t choose this man. Presumably the dumbass pile of crap in question was elected popularly.
Americans chose him. The alternative was no better. yhwx has a point and maybe we don’t deserve representation at all.
I get that your Trump apologia won’t be broken any time during this administration so I won’t bother with that, but how can you just disregard that he got significantly less votes than the other candidate in the election that Americans had to choose a president? Americans didn’t choose him. Our electoral college did. Americans did not choose him, you’re objectively wrong there. Americans chose Hillary Clinton to be President, but enough of the right states went to Trump, so that’s why he won.
My only apologia is for federalism and the Constitution. Given the party nominating processes you might argue Americans only had the illusion of choice anyway. My low regard for Clinton is no defense of Trump.
It is a defense of Trump. You’re shrugging off his awfulness by talking about how someone who isn’t President would be just as bad, even though everyone has forgotten about her and her career is dead and irrelevant now. I knew Trump people would never be able to stop bringing up Clinton even long after the election. You aren’t being apologetic for federalism and the Constitution, because then you’d be up in arms about Trump and his cronies. The new plan for the war on drugs (which in and of itself is unconstitutional) is yet another example of his disdain for federalism. He’s only interested in state’s rights when it comes to denying people civil liberties. Everything else is big government, just right-wing big government.
Incorrect. After you questioned the legitimacy of the election because popular vote, I mentioned in passing that the alternative was no better. If you want to relitigate the 2016 election, it’s a relevant point.
It makes no sense to characterize my low regard for both of them into the “you’re defending Trump” category. If I want to defend Trump I will but you’ve not been paying attention if you think I have been doing so. I often see the kneejerk response when Clinton is mentioned that she is being used to excuse Trump. It’s not what I was doing and it’s a lazy retort.
As for the legitimacy of our electoral system, it was my view well before Trump that the Electoral College serves a good purpose.
I’ve said at least a couple times that I’m disillusioned about our politics in the US. I’ve expressed the view that liberals actually benefited by Trump’s win because people are motivated to take action. I compared it to the Tea Party which has sadly jumped into the harbor never to be seen again.
If you want to discuss drug policy and really want to know what Mrebo thinks, maybe I’ll say something on the matter. If you want to know what agreements and disagreements I have with the administration, I might tell you that too. Your rant is trying to foist all kinds of things on me that I haven’t said.
I don’t think me ranting in this forum is going to change anything Trump is doing (crazy thought, that). If you raised the issue of federal drug policy, as opposed to hey guys did you know Trump didn’t really win the 2016 election? then I may have responded to that if the spirit moved me.
The blue elephant in the room.
He did win the 2016 election, he just wasn’t selected by the “American voters”. Whether the alternative is better or not is irrelevant.
The Person in Question
He did win the 2016 election, he just wasn’t selected by the “American voters”. Whether the alternative is better or not is irrelevant.
Back to the original statement “Americans chose him” is even further from that - “American voters” - as only a small portion of the American population actually voted for him.
Going back even further to saying DC doesn’t deserve representation for electing one anti-semite, I assume this was a joke, but to be clear there are states that have elected far worse.
No, it wasn’t a small portion of the American population. It was over sixty million people.
No, it wasn’t a small portion of the American population. It was over sixty million people.
Yes, but that’s still significantly less than the portion of the voters that voted against him. If anything, your argument should be that Americans need to choose their President, rather than base it on the electoral college.
The Person in Question
It makes no sense to characterize my low regard for both of them into the “you’re defending Trump” category.
If you think they’re equally terrible, then yes you are defending him.
He did win the 2016 election, he just wasn’t selected by the “American voters”. Whether the alternative is better or not is irrelevant.
Back to the original statement “Americans chose him” is even further from that - “American voters” - as only a small portion of the American population actually voted for him.
When you don’t vote, or vote third party, that in itself is a choice to let the other voters make the decision on your behalf. Plenty of eligible voters were so unhappy with both available choices in 2016, or so certain that the other voters would support their preferred candidate, that they entrusted other voters to make that decision for them. So while not all eligible voters cast a ballot, they all made a choice for either Trump or Clinton, in some manner or another, with the exception of those who were disenfranchised via some sort of voter suppression effort, or were physically unable to cast a ballot due to medical reasons, etc.
It makes no sense to characterize my low regard for both of them into the “you’re defending Trump” category.
If you think they’re equally terrible, then yes you are defending him.
Silly, that’s not how it works.
The blue elephant in the room.
He did win the 2016 election, he just wasn’t selected by the “American voters”. Whether the alternative is better or not is irrelevant.
Back to the original statement “Americans chose him” is even further from that - “American voters” - as only a small portion of the American population actually voted for him.
Going back even further to saying DC doesn’t deserve representation for electing one anti-semite, I assume this was a joke, but to be clear there are states that have elected far worse.
It did start with jokes before we were all so serious. You’re exactly right that we can define this all kinds of ways to say “Americans didn’t choose.” Bill Clinton only got 43% of the 55% who turned out to vote in 1992. But Americans did choose him, even if the rules or turnout don’t reflect a popular consensus.
The blue elephant in the room.
It makes no sense to characterize my low regard for both of them into the “you’re defending Trump” category.
If you think they’re equally terrible, then yes you are defending him.
Silly, that’s not how it works.
Speaking for myself, I did vote for Clinton (in both the primary and general) and would have voted for her in 2008 if not for Obama; but I understand why people don’t like her, and disapproval of Clinton is not the same as excusing Trump.
Beyond that, Hillary Clinton is old news. Complaining that she did-but-didn’t get elected is a moot point, and I’d just assume she fades into obscurity.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Disapproval of her is not support of Trump. Claiming they’re equally bad is, because it’s giving Trump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
Disapproval of her is not support of Trump. Claiming they’re equally bad is, because it’s giving Trump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
It does assume quite a lot to say they’re equally bad. Especially since we know much more now about his governing style. I also don’t believe a word about rumors that the Clintons are equivalent to crime lords with how those who disagree with them are disappeared or some such nonsense. And yes, I’ve actually heard people say things like that in real life.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Disapproval of her is not support of Trump. Claiming they’re equally bad is, because it’s giving Trump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
A logical alternative under your view is that I’m not giving her enough credit.
The blue elephant in the room.
Disapproval of her is not support of Trump. Claiming they’re equally bad is, because it’s giving Trump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
A logical alternative under your view is that I’m not giving her enough credit.
To be fair, during the election one could assume they were both horrible for different reasons. Now we know he is definitely as horrible as was originally thought, while she is still just presumed so. Plus, he’s completely incompetent while she is not.
It’s one thing to say that she would be as horrible as, say, Pence or Cruz, but it’s a real stretch to say she’s equal to Trump. At the very least she would actually do her job rather than just golfing all the damn time. And she would have more of an opinion than to just remember the last thing that the last person told her.
People during the campaign compared her possible presidency as akin to 8 more years of Obama, and there’s no way one could claim, from an informed opinion, that Obama was as bad as Trump is.
Meanwhile, I do feel it’s possible Trump might be helping the Democrats by indirectly affecting change.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Pence and Cruz bring in a psychotic religious angle to their politics, which makes them much worse than Hillary.
The Person in Question
Disapproval of her is not support of Trump. Claiming they’re equally bad is, because it’s giving Trump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
A logical alternative under your view is that I’m not giving her enough credit.
To be fair, during the election one could assume they were both horrible for different reasons. Now we know he is definitely as horrible as was originally thought, while she is still just presumed so. Plus, he’s completely incompetent while she is not.
It’s one thing to say that she would be as horrible as, say, Pence or Cruz, but it’s a real stretch to say she’s equal to Trump. At the very least she would actually do her job rather than just golfing all the damn time.
I don’t get golf but I don’t think it’s a problem. Clinton would have done yoga all the time. Anyway, as a conservative it’s hard not to like some of the policies. I do think Gorsuch was a great pick although his writing style annoys me. I think movement on Israel and North Korea is very promising. I think the pushback Trump inspires is healthy, whether or not it’s meritorious. You’re also right this judgment entails a lot of assumptions.
The blue elephant in the room.