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ADV released the original cut as the "Legacy Collection".

They prolly had something comparable to Beta.  VHS is not used for broadcast masters - not at consumer speeds, anyway.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

ADV released the original cut as the "Legacy Collection".

They prolly had something comparable to Beta.  VHS is not used for broadcast masters - not at consumer speeds, anyway.

It was broadcast U-Matic.  The same thing Coppola Edited the first cut of apocalypse on and the same thing the star wars Holiday Special was shot on.

Like i said roughly vhs quality.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Hi all,

I know this is a few years old now, but I just discovered it. I’m really interested to see this project, however, the torrent from nyaa is unfortunately dead. Is there any chance someone could re-seed it? I would love to see Robotech the way I remember it, but with good quality video. I’m especially interested to see how you fixed the opening and endings.

Thanks

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skyjedi2005 said:

Molly said:

ADV released the original cut as the “Legacy Collection”.

They prolly had something comparable to Beta.  VHS is not used for broadcast masters - not at consumer speeds, anyway.

It was broadcast U-Matic.  The same thing Coppola Edited the first cut of apocalypse on and the same thing the star wars Holiday Special was shot on.

Like i said roughly vhs quality.

Technically U-Matic would have twice the resolution of VHS anyway as it was the broadcast standard during most of the 70’s and 80’s.

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Is this project still ongoing, or is it officially dead? Im dying to watch the entire series with better visuals and original audio. And is there someone who can seed the torrent with the first 6 episodes. Its currently dead.

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Not really either. I haven’t gone back to it because I’ve got a ton of other projects, but I don’t want to call it dead either. But you might as well consider it dead, since I probably won’t be going back to it anytime soon. 😦

I am hoping to return to it eventually.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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That’s a shame but understandable. It’s not an easy task. Hopefully it will get done sometime in the future, at least the Macross Saga. Does anyone still have the other 6 episodes that they can upload? I’d at least like to enjoy those ones if at all possible.

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Hello Everyone,

Since this project is currently dead/hibernating I decided to do my own version. I’ve re-edited the entire Macross Saga from Booby Trap to To the Stars. Ive followed the Deculture Edition’s spirit in having a higher resolution source for the video while using the audio directly from the Legacy collection DVD’s, no terrible stock sound effects here. The way I edited was to use the legacy footage as the basis for editing the higher resolution source. So anything that wasn’t in the legacy video footage I edited out. I tried to keep it in line with the legacy editions video footage almost frame by frame. Though there will be times in the footage it was about 1 to 2 frames off. From rewatching it myself it is not noticeable at all. And I think you will find it very faithful to the Legacy editions. I should mention I did take some liberties (during Force of Arms I removed Minmay’s To Be in Love song and replaced it with “It’s You” which I found was the original song she sung before the dvd were released) I will be going through each episode again one by one to make sure I didn’t miss any mistakes (missing frames, editing mistakes, etc.). I will be evaluating a way to make the file sizes smaller without quality loss. Most of them are around 1 to 1.2 gig each episode, all MP4. I’ve played a number of them through plex.tv and streamed them directly to my tv and the results have been awesome. Hopefully I can get them to a smaller size. As for where to hosts the files I’m also trying to figure that out. I will update when I have a better idea of how to go about getting these to the public.

I did want to ask the creator of the Deculture Edition if it would be ok to use their intro and end credits in my version as they did a superb job. Making my own would take a great deal of time and I’m not sure if I could do as good a job as they did. But I will leave that decision up to them.

Anyways I’ll put them up when I figure out all the logistics but I estimate possibly having them up around the end of this month. I just want to make sure that everything is near as perfect as possible before releasing it widely. Hope you all enjoy it when it does drop. Thanks!

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I’ll upload the assets.

Mospeada has a BD release in Japan, if that helps any.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Thanks so much! I appreciate all the hard work you did on the Deculture Edition. Really inspired me to try my hand at it and improve at editing. I actually have the Mospeada BD and will give it a shot after everything is all done with Macross. If only Southern Cross was getting remastered we could have the full series. Anyways, Thanks again!

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I know, right? I don’t think there’s any better than the R1s for that right now, is there? (Since that series was kind-of a dud, although wasn’t it Michie Tomizawa’s first major role?)

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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I know, right? I don’t think there’s any better than the R1s for that right now, is there? (Since that series was kind-of a dud, although wasn’t it Michie Tomizawa’s first major role?)

There actually is a R2 Japanese DVD release of Southern Cross (which has been long out of print so you’ll have to get it second hand from somewhere like Yahoo Japan Auctions) but I’m not sure how the quality on the Japanese DVD version compares to the ADV R1 release, personally I’d assume the Japanese release would be slightly better since the Japanese DVDs probably use the original 16mm film negatives for their source as opposed to the nth generation copies ADV had to work with, that and the fact that Japanese companies usually tend to put forth a great effort to try and make high quality releases, I’ve actually been wanting to get my hands on the R2 release for a while now to see how the two versions compare I just haven’t had the money to get it (I may be getting a job soon so that may not be an issue for much longer).

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Thank you to everyone for the Deculture Edition! Without you I may never have attempted this project so I’m grateful, also for providing me with the intro and credits. Enjoy! Let me know if you encounter any issues.

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Thanks for this! I can’t wait to see it. 😃

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I really enjoyed the Deculture Edition episodes, was disappointed when work on those didn’t continue.
Thank you very much for your hard work on the Vermillion Edition edits. I look forward to watching them, what little I’ve previewed so far looks great.

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You’re very welcome! I did the best I could, the Deculture Edition set a pretty high bar. Hope you enjoy it!

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I really enjoyed the Deculture Edition episodes, was disappointed when work on those didn’t continue.
Thank you very much for your hard work on the Vermillion Edition edits. I look forward to watching them, what little I’ve previewed so far looks great.

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Love these Vermillion Editions. Thank you for making them.

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You’re welcome! Glad you’re enjoying them.

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Love these Vermillion Editions. Thank you for making them.

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im willing to lend a hand with southern cross, since i own the ADV release

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Molly said:

I know, right? I don’t think there’s any better than the R1s for that right now, is there? (Since that series was kind-of a dud, although wasn’t it Michie Tomizawa’s first major role?)

There actually is a R2 Japanese DVD release of Southern Cross (which has been long out of print so you’ll have to get it second hand from somewhere like Yahoo Japan Auctions) but I’m not sure how the quality on the Japanese DVD version compares to the ADV R1 release, personally I’d assume the Japanese release would be slightly better since the Japanese DVDs probably use the original 16mm film negatives for their source as opposed to the nth generation copies ADV had to work with, that and the fact that Japanese companies usually tend to put forth a great effort to try and make high quality releases, I’ve actually been wanting to get my hands on the R2 release for a while now to see how the two versions compare I just haven’t had the money to get it (I may be getting a job soon so that may not be an issue for much longer).

sadly that is incorrect, the JP dvd set is worse than the adv set, chroma bleed, nigh noise levels, basicly taken straight rom the broadcast masters (or degraded copies atleast) the ADV set attempted to fix them but overall ruined them, removing most colors, leaving mostly heavy blacks and blue tones throughout the episodes, ive attempted to color correct the ADV set but it simpily cant be done, and the japanese rellease will cost you arround 500$

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Molly said:

I know, right? I don’t think there’s any better than the R1s for that right now, is there? (Since that series was kind-of a dud, although wasn’t it Michie Tomizawa’s first major role?)

There actually is a R2 Japanese DVD release of Southern Cross (which has been long out of print so you’ll have to get it second hand from somewhere like Yahoo Japan Auctions) but I’m not sure how the quality on the Japanese DVD version compares to the ADV R1 release, personally I’d assume the Japanese release would be slightly better since the Japanese DVDs probably use the original 16mm film negatives for their source as opposed to the nth generation copies ADV had to work with, that and the fact that Japanese companies usually tend to put forth a great effort to try and make high quality releases, I’ve actually been wanting to get my hands on the R2 release for a while now to see how the two versions compare I just haven’t had the money to get it (I may be getting a job soon so that may not be an issue for much longer).

sadly that is incorrect, the JP dvd set is worse than the adv set, chroma bleed, nigh noise levels, basicly taken straight rom the broadcast masters (or degraded copies atleast) the ADV set attempted to fix them but overall ruined them, removing most colors, leaving mostly heavy blacks and blue tones throughout the episodes, ive attempted to color correct the ADV set but it simpily cant be done, and the japanese rellease will cost you arround 500$

Like I said previously I didn’t know what the quality of the R2 DVDs were like and just assumed it would be better since it was a domestic release in the country of the shows origin, who knows in the right hands it might actually be somewhat salvageable and turn out to be better than the R1, highly unlikely but you never know, I’d actually like to see a good comparison shot between the two DVD releases to see what the differences are.

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Thanks for picking this up and completing it. I just suffered through the remastered edition on Netflix without realizing this was available. Beautiful work.

One thing I noticed on the first two episodes: after the opening credits, the audio is pushed heavily toward the right channel. The rest of the episodes seem fine, with dialog anchored to the center. I’ve tested it on both my Mac and Windows 10 machine with the same results. Is this just a quirk in the original mix?

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The original mix was monaural. 😮

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Must be my fault. I’m still somewhat of an amateur with editing so sound mixing is not a forte of mine. The first episode was my first attempt. Originally I tried to match the sound of the remastered audio to the dvd audio and have them in sync. I later found that it was much more efficient to match the better HD visuals to the dvd visuals and the sound would match perfectly. So that first episode was a bit of a rough draft for me and was quite a bit of work to edit the first time. I did go back to fine tune it a bit but apparently not enough. The second episode was also a difficult episode to edit so I must have just missed some things there as well. I may go back eventually and start from scratch on those 2 episodes but it won’t be fore some time. As for the New Generation I haven’t had much chance to start that project but hope to get to it this year when school isn’t too much of a distraction.

Jay said:

Thanks for picking this up and completing it. I just suffered through the remastered edition on Netflix without realizing this was available. Beautiful work.

One thing I noticed on the first two episodes: after the opening credits, the audio is pushed heavily toward the right channel. The rest of the episodes seem fine, with dialog anchored to the center. I’ve tested it on both my Mac and Windows 10 machine with the same results. Is this just a quirk in the original mix?