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Valheru_84
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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14-Mar-2018, 10:48 AM

Sir Ridley said:

Valheru_84 said:

Sir Ridley said:

Valheru_84 said:

oojason said:

^ off topic thread by .Val edited to a ‘.’.

Not in here you don’t, Val.

Take it the TLJ opinion/review thread.

Taking something obviously said as a joke out of context like that does you or your views on TLJ no favours.

I didn’t see it as a joke but a veiled insult to someone that has been as outspoken as possible about his dissatisfaction with a number of matters in a very smart and humourous way without drawing the wrath of the mouse and disappointing his fans by being booted from the remaining SW movies he has a chance to be in.

I think you’re most definitely wrong. It was friendly banter, nothing sinister about it. Check out this interview as well. https://youtu.be/YYMga3GHOZU?t=33m33s Lots of teasing remarks like that but obviously there’s a friendship between them and a lot of mutual love and admiration.

To bring this back on topic… perhaps Frink could use Mark’s idea about growing to Godzilla size and stomping the First Order. That would be something.

I certainly don’t think so - go to 35:07 and there’s a perfect example of what I’m talking about. A joke about killing the past and RJ is doing a good job of it to which RJ half heartedly laughs it off while looking down and is obviously awkward in his behaviour, signifying to me he personally has different thoughts on Mark’s comment. You have to ask yourself - why would Mark actually be happy about killing of the past, his past and a character he has been the active custodian of for 40 years and had to think of it as “Jake Skywalker” in order to play the part? He obviously doesn’t agree and this is one of his many little ways he has employed over the past months of letting RJ, Disney and the audience know without actually saying it and causing a real PR shit fight.

Val

I’m not saying they don’t disagree, they probably disagree on many things (like friends can do). But I don’t see any hostility between them or a need to belittle each other, they disagree on some things but they’re just having fun with it.

Later they discuss creative differences. https://youtu.be/YYMga3GHOZU?t=42m33s Look at 42:50 where Rian genuinely laughs at Mark’s story and Mark grabs Rians hand and smiles. Very sweet and friendly but still acknowledging that there were some creative differences. Later on at 43:15 Mark admits he might have had some stupid ideas (Godzilla Luke). At 47:12 they discuss how some of Mark’s ideas are in the film too, like the forehead kiss with Leia and the wink to C3PO. Then at 48:04 Rian teases Mark in reference to their creative differences while at the same time acknowledging that it wasn’t all bad. Then he pats Marks arm to say sorry and Mark jokes on himself about the Godzilla idea. I think it’s all very wholesome and fun, no ill will there.

I’ll try and watch the whole thing at some stage and get back to you (as much as I hate listening to RJ talk).

Val