As “tongues” is the French word for “flip flop sandals”, I’m a little bit confused with this religious concept.
May I say that Jesus was speaking in flip flops ?
BREAKING: Invisible Jesus takes world by storm!
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As “tongues” is the French word for “flip flop sandals”, I’m a little bit confused with this religious concept.
May I say that Jesus was speaking in flip flops ?
BREAKING: Invisible Jesus takes world by storm!
lol at those not even having tongues
The concept of ‘speaking in tongues’ is another failed attempt to make every single word of scripture applicable to today. And you’re right it is super weird amd creepy.
It’s like something you’d see in The Exorcist.
The Person in Question
The concept of ‘speaking in tongues’ is another failed attempt to make every single word of scripture applicable to today. And you’re right it is super weird amd creepy.
It’s like something you’d see in The Exorcist.
Or Pootie Tang.
The concept of ‘speaking in tongues’ is another failed attempt to make every single word of scripture applicable to today. And you’re right it is super weird amd creepy.
It’s like something you’d see in The Exorcist.
Or Pootie Tang.
'Til now, I barely remembered that movie exists.
The concept of ‘speaking in tongues’ is another failed attempt to make every single word of scripture applicable to today. And you’re right it is super weird amd creepy.
It’s like something you’d see in The Exorcist.
Or Pootie Tang.
'Til now, I barely remembered that movie exists.
Pootie Tang will draw you a picture of how he’s gonna kick your ass, then mail it to you ten days in advance. The picture gets there, right? You go, “What the hell is this?” Then Pootie Tang knocks on your door, promptly kicks your ass, and you still won’t know what happened to you!
The blue elephant in the room.
Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31
…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.
Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31
…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.
That is a memorable post.
The blue elephant in the room.
Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31
…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.
I remember that post. It’s quite good, and proof the forum was better back then.
Question to any and all religious folk here: do you or do you not believe in hell, or similar places, and why?
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Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31
…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.
I remember that post. It’s quite good, and proof the forum was better back then.
Oh really?
corellian77 said:
I’d like to see the scene immediately following this one, where Kirk gives Vader a karate chop to the neck, stuns all four stormtroopers, then makes out with Princess Leia.
This is what happens:
Kirk gets a look like this:
Then this happens:
Then some of this:
After that this:
Then the doctor wants some companionship too:
Then Kirk makes out with Leia as seen in above post. Whole thing then turns into a huge sex scene.
(imagine XXX imagery above)Afterwards Picard and Janeway’s orders to all the new couples:
Wow, I haven’t seen such an elegant formal proof since I was an undergrad. DuracellEnergizer was right. QED.
Question to any and all religious folk here: do you or do you not believe in hell, or similar places, and why?
A lot of the less devout tend to avoid talking about hell these days. When they do they particularly don’t like to admit that Christianity condemns all (meaning every single person) that don’t believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible will go to the fiery depths of hell to burn for all eternity. Sorry, that doesn’t answer your question, but given that no one has answered your post is telling.
The Person in Question
Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31
…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.
I remember that post. It’s quite good, and proof the forum was better back then.
Oh really?
corellian77 said:
I’d like to see the scene immediately following this one, where Kirk gives Vader a karate chop to the neck, stuns all four stormtroopers, then makes out with Princess Leia.
This is what happens:
Kirk gets a look like this:
Then this happens:
Then some of this:
After that this:
Then the doctor wants some companionship too:
Then Kirk makes out with Leia as seen in above post. Whole thing then turns into a huge sex scene.
(imagine XXX imagery above)Afterwards Picard and Janeway’s orders to all the new couples:
Twister is probably going to go to hell for that post.
The Person in Question
I’m not a churchgoer nor otherwise part of a formal religion. But I believe there is a separation from God, as it is often described.
To mfm’s point, I think the traditional Christian view has become shamed into near oblivion since it is seen as intolerant of others’s beliefs. And that also goes to an idea that religion defining a certain path to salvation is incompatible with a modern pluralistic society.
The blue elephant in the room.
I did not answer because I was not here. But yes, I do believe that Hell exists. Simply put, believe so because the Bible says it does, in particular because testimony about Jesus Himself says that Jesus says it does. And also there reportedly are people in our current society who have had near-death experiences who also confirm that it exists.
It’s not something I prefer to focus on, and I can understand the argument people try to make that a loving God wouldn’t allow for such a place. But I don’t like the idea of putting God into a box as though He isn’t a certain way just because people don’t want Him to be since it makes them uncomfortable to accept it.
JEDIT: The same can be said of angels and demons. The Bible says Jesus encountered them while here was here; and there are modern day testimonies of people who have encountered them.
So it is enough evidence for me to accept that such places and such people exist, and that whether I like it or not is not actually relevant.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Further, “eternity” can have a wholly different meaning for a plane of existence that potentially might not be bound by our current universe’s/dimension’s linear spacetime.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
I’m not a churchgoer nor otherwise part of a formal religion. But I believe there is a separation from God, as it is often described.
The Bible certainly doesn’t describe it as that. That’s a very sanitized version of Hell. Jesus Christ himself is constantly yelling at people about how they’ll burn eternally and be eaten by worms in hell.
To mfm’s point, I think the traditional Christian view has become shamed into near oblivion since it is seen as intolerant of others’s beliefs. And that also goes to an idea that religion defining a certain path to salvation is incompatible with a modern pluralistic society.
I think it is a pretty intolerant belief to preach that everyone who disagrees with you on theology will burn eternally.
I did not answer because I was not here. But yes, I do believe that Hell exists. Simply put, believe so because the Bible says it does, in particular because testimony about Jesus Himself says that Jesus says it does.
Well, of course he did. That’s where our idea of hell comes from.
And also there reportedly are people in our current society who have had near-death experiences who also confirm that it exists.
And all of those near-death experiences contradict each other. I had a near-death experience once. I saw my parents standing over my body. They weren’t actually there, it was just a hallucination.
It’s not something I prefer to focus on,
Why not? If you believe that people are going to go to hell forever, shouldn’t you be up in arms about warning them?
and I can understand the argument people try to make that a loving God wouldn’t allow for such a place. But I don’t like the idea of putting God into a box as though He isn’t a certain way just because people don’t want Him to be since it makes them uncomfortable to accept it.
Everyone should understand the argument that sending otherwise decent people to an eternity in suffering for simply not believing in the right religion (especially if they didn’t even know about Christianity’s existence) is a despicable act. You’re right that such evil actions wouldn’t necessarily disprove the existence of God, though it surely would make him far more villainous than any of humanity’s most evil of men if such a God did exist.
The Person in Question
Why not? If you believe that people are going to go to hell forever, shouldn’t you be up in arms about warning them?
Some people try that. It doesn’t work long term. I could explain about the parable of the sower and how not all seed finds good soil. Plus, I am not extroverted or outgoing enough to put myself out there to random people.
Everyone should understand the argument that sending otherwise decent people to an eternity in suffering for simply not believing in the right religion (especially if they didn’t even know about Christianity’s existence) is a despicable act. You’re right that such evil actions wouldn’t necessarily disprove the existence of God, though it surely would make him far more villainous than any of humanity’s most evil of men if such a God did exist.
Jesus says if his disciples kept quiet, the very rocks would cry out.
And when you say it is villainous, you color it with your perceptions, with concepts and motivations that may not be accurate to reality.
And this is why I’m not really keen on the conversation. Debate to be had is likely not logical because the logic used might be subject to faulty premise.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Further, “eternity” can have a wholly different meaning for a plane of existence that potentially might not be bound by our current universe’s/dimension’s linear spacetime.
What exactly do you mean by this? “Eternity” might mean “actually temporary” in the Hell Dimension?
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Further, “eternity” can have a wholly different meaning for a plane of existence that potentially might not be bound by our current universe’s/dimension’s linear spacetime.
What exactly do you mean by this? “Eternity” might mean “actually temporary” in the Hell Dimension?
I mean infinity has a different meaning when there is no concept of time. There is no “forever.” There’s just “is.”
I do not say such must be the case. It’s just a thought I arrived at at some point.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
I’m not a churchgoer nor otherwise part of a formal religion. But I believe there is a separation from God, as it is often described.
The Bible certainly doesn’t describe it as that. That’s a very sanitized version of Hell. Jesus Christ himself is constantly yelling at people about how they’ll burn eternally and be eaten by worms in hell.
Biblical literalism doesn’t fit with what little I know about the Bible and with reality I’ve experienced. I imagine permanent separation from God entails much that would make it torturous, even if not the kind of tortures found in the Greek conception of the underworld echoed in the Bible.
And again, I’m not a part of a formal religion.
To mfm’s point, I think the traditional Christian view has become shamed into near oblivion since it is seen as intolerant of others’s beliefs. And that also goes to an idea that religion defining a certain path to salvation is incompatible with a modern pluralistic society.
I think it is a pretty intolerant belief to preach that everyone who disagrees with you on theology will burn eternally.
Logically, it’s about disagreeing with God and with the order He has laid out. Necessarily, this creates exclusion. Some would like to reduce religion to something anodyne like “be a good person” but just because that feels nice doesn’t make it true.
It’s similar to chyron’s point that I agree with:
But I don’t like the idea of putting God into a box as though He isn’t a certain way just because people don’t want Him to be since it makes them uncomfortable to accept it.
To reemphasize, I’m coming from my own perspective. I don’t understand how it all works and though I’m told the Bible provides many definitive answers I’ve not been convinced in many respects.
The blue elephant in the room.
Even if you don’t believe that it is literally fire, the point is obvious that Jesus Christ meant that hell is a place of unimaginable torture.
As for chyron’s point about “our perceptions” coloring things, I think it’s fair to judge God by the standards that the Bible claims he judges us. We’re supposed to love our enemies, God tortures his enemies for eternity. I’d imagine that if I personally kidnapped a nonbeliever and tortured them myself because they weren’t Christian, I’d be rightfully labelled an evil maniac. But that’s what Jesus Christ proudly proclaimed he does. Saying that a character that does such a thing is loathsome is not unfair at all.
The Person in Question
I did not answer because I was not here. But yes, I do believe that Hell exists. Simply put, believe so because the Bible says it does, in particular because testimony about Jesus Himself says that Jesus says it does.
Citation needed.
AFAIK, Jesus talks about “Gehenna” (which was a valley of torture near Jerusalem where “fire never ends” and where “bad souls die”), not about Hell as we understand this word today.
