Anchorhead said:
That’s incorrect.
https://youtu.be/sx15aXjcDZgI really don’t see how being influenced by a dozen old movies is in any way comparable to blantantly recycling story elements, structure, and visuals from the same movie series.
It’s not, nor was I addressing that issue. I was responding specifically to Collipso saying “Neither Star Wars nor Empire ripped off any movie whatsoever”. In fact, it ripped off several films. For the record; I’m not bothered by that. Not now, not in 1977.
Regarding your claim that TFA recycled elements from the OT; I can’t imagine there is anyone on here who doesn’t see that to be the case. There are all sorts of parallels between the OT and the ST. The differences seem to be more about the level at which people are bothered by them.
I think we disagree on the meaning of ripoff. Am I wrong in every way? Perhaps. I just don’t think that taking some very few elements from several different sources and things that influenced you and joining them together to create something unique and original is a good example of a ripoff. And that’s disregarding every 100% original aspect of Star Wars and Empire.
On the other hand I do think that recycling the plot, the visuals, and pretty much everything from another movie is a ripoff if not marketed as a soft reboot (much like what Dre said) and therefore TFA totally qualifies as that. TLJ too but not as much. The TLJ throne room scene left me astonished, for example, literally copying and pasting dialogue from RotJ. Except it doesn’t really work, because the characters don’t have any reason whatsoever to believe in what they’re saying, very different from RotJ Vader and Luke. Oh well.