Also, I don’t think I’d feel very safe around an armed guard, I’d probably feel less safe then I would without a guard. People with guns make me nervous, not because I’m afraid of guns, but because I can never know if they’re going to use them or what they’re going to use them for.
Ok, I will give this a real response.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
I don’t know why an armed cop would make you nervous. He/she has the gun in case the worst happened. As long as you behave yourself, you don’t need to worry.
I don’t trust that all cops will be totally sane/rational. If the guards were “extremely well trained and extensively background checked,” as you said, I think I’d be less averse to the idea. That said, I think “trained and background checked” is too vague to really have a discussion about, and it seems to me that it’s rooted in a ‘perfect world’ ideal without really considering how it would be done and how feasible it is.
obviously, a lot more details would need to be ironed out before going ahead with this.
I’m not saying that a cop is going to shoot a student (though I don’t doubt that it would happen), just that people with guns put me on edge.
And when you say “behave yourself,” what does that mean?
Obey direct orders from cops
Kids? Obeying direct orders? Doesn’t compute. And again, what happens if they don’t?
Depends on the situation. What I talking about was obeying direct orders in an emergency situation, like an active shooter.
Kids and teenagers are rowdy. What happens if they don’t behave themselves?
I want the cops to be trained well enough to be able to deal with them reasonably. For most part, it should be left up the regular school staff to deal with rowdy kids.
What is a “reasonable response?”
depends upon situation.
I don’t know if you read the article I posted, but it said that often, teachers would pawn off that responsibility of dealing with rowdy students over to the police.
I don’t think that is what should be done. The cops are there as a last resort in a dire situation.
The teachers don’t want to deal with the rowdy kids, but that absolutely shouldn’t be the job of an armed guard; what’s the solution?
teachers should be told to deal with normal kind of rowdy. When it is not not normal is when the cops should intervene.
Will they be shot? What if the guard feels threatened by a student?
unlikely.
It’s still something that should be addressed.
So should a nut trying to come in and murder doubt digit numbers of kids. But instead, the right blocks banning of guns, and it seems the left is unwilling to allow armed guards. So nothing will happen and more kids will die.
I feel like by putting armed guards in school, they would be bringing with them all the problems of a real police force; racial profiling, overuse of force, the whole nine yards.
I agree these are problems. But we have problems right now. Kids are being murdered in our schools.
And since I don’t think guards would solve that problem, I view this only as creating more unnecessary ones.
I don’t know why you don’t. If shooting happening at a school you’d want the cops there asap. Why? to stop the bad guy. The faster they get there, the faster the badguy can be taking out. But fastest way is if they were there already.
Best case scenario, I think, if guards were absolutely necessary and there was no way they weren’t gonna happen; would be that they never interact with the students. Lock them in a room or something, have them watch the security cameras. They’d be solely reserved for dealing with an active threat. Even then, it would still be colossally expensive, and for what? How many of these guards will actually get the chance to do their job? How many will be successful at their job?
The knowledge that they are there itself might prevent a shooting. You don’t see these nuts trying their rampages at a police station do you? Ever wonder why?