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moviefreakedmind
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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22-Feb-2018, 10:36 PM

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Also, I don’t think I’d feel very safe around an armed guard, I’d probably feel less safe then I would without a guard. People with guns make me nervous, not because I’m afraid of guns, but because I can never know if they’re going to use them or what they’re going to use them for.

Ok, I will give this a real response.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

I don’t know why an armed cop would make you nervous. He/she has the gun in case the worst happened. As long as you behave yourself, you don’t need to worry.

I don’t trust that all cops will be totally sane/rational. If the guards were “extremely well trained and extensively background checked,” as you said, I think I’d be less averse to the idea. That said, I think “trained and background checked” is too vague to really have a discussion about, and it seems to me that it’s rooted in a ‘perfect world’ ideal without really considering how it would be done and how feasible it is.

obviously, a lot more details would need to be ironed out before going ahead with this.

I’m not saying that a cop is going to shoot a student (though I don’t doubt that it would happen), just that people with guns put me on edge.

And when you say “behave yourself,” what does that mean?

Obey direct orders from cops

Kids? Obeying direct orders? Doesn’t compute. And again, what happens if they don’t?

I’ll tell you what happens. They get detained, pepper-sprayed, arrested, or have the shit beat out of them. At worst they may get shot to death. Every year there is a far too high number of school-aged kids that get shot to death by police.

Warbler said:

Don’t try to kill any students, teachers or others

Obviously the dangerous people aren’t going to follow this rule.

Don’t carry deadly weapons

Again, the dangerous people won’t follow this rule, but that doesn’t even matter since cops treat everybody as though they’re potentially carrying dangerous weapons. That’s why so many unarmed people get shot to death by police. The excuse is always, “He could’ve been armed.”

Obey direct orders from cops

Why? So they don’t shoot me to death? If I’m obeying the law then their direct orders can go to hell. I’m a law-abiding taxpayer. The cops theoretically are here to serve people like me. A lot of direct orders from cops are violations of your rights. You don’t have to let them search you or your car or your property (assuming they don’t have a warrant), you don’t have to answer their questions if you don’t want to, etc. etc. I don’t like this idea that the cops are our overlords that we just need to obey if we don’t want to be harmed by them. I don’t want cops in schools. If I had kids then I would not send them to a school that was under this police-state form of martial law, even if that meant I had to home-school them. This nonsense cannot be allowed to happen. We need to solve this country’s gun problem the right way rather than fight it with more guns. Don’t let anyone use these tragedies to turn the US into a police state.