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TM2YC
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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22-Feb-2018, 5:47 PM

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.

What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?

yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777

Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840

Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392

Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470

Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.

You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.

  1. Going into a school where no one is armed.
  2. Going into a police station full of armed cops.

Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:

23 percent of emergency department shootings involved a perpetrator taking a gun from a security officer

But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.

Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.

Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.

Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.

First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.

So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.

We manage just fine in the UK without letting our Police execute members of the public (specialist fire-arms officers aside). What you categorise as “stupidity”, we call normality and common sense.

Three other points related to this current gun debate:

Do some people not realise that there might be some overlap on the Teachers/Psychos Venn-Diagram before handing these stressed and overworked teachers Guns and sending them into class rooms full of annoying children that are winding them up on a daily basis?

Have the NRA considered that all these mass-shootings over the last couple of decades could have created a whole generation of young people who are staunchly anti-gun? If so, maybe they should start considering supporting some basic gun controls NOW, so these young people start seeing Guns as something other than terrifying before they get older and begin to outweigh the current elder generation in voting power.

I think Trump could actually solve the gun problem IF he wanted to, in a way no other President could. Democrats would support him obviously. The Republican politicians would also support him because they’ll cravenly go along with anything he says like they always do, even if they personally object to it. His unshakeable base would support it too because they manage to square any crazy thing he says in their brains (e.g. yesterday I thought it was wrong but if Trump says it, then I always thought it was right!). Trump is independently wealthy and even factoring in his meanness, he could survive without the NRA money if they turned off the taps. Trump loves the idea of beating Obama and “winning” generally and he really could on this issue… IF he wanted to.