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RogueLeader
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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22-Feb-2018, 7:09 AM

DrDre said:

I’ve been thinking about why the idea, that TLJ didn’t answer questions like “where does Snoke come from?” is important to me in the overall appreciation, or lack thereof of the ST to me, and possibly others. My answer is, that providing answers like that provides meaning both in the context of what came before, but perhaps even more importantly to the future final installment of the nine part saga.

While I don’t think explaining Snoke was really necessary for this film, I appreciate you writing your thoughts out on why it bothered you. I shortly felt the same way as you, and I think this is the main reason why a lot of people felt the same way.

I don’t know if Snoke will even be mentioned in IX, but if I were to speculate, I think the next animated series after Rebels will be set between 6 and 7, and Snoke will be one of things explored in that series.

I think down the road people could see it like they do The Clone Wars, which for a lot of people adds a lot more value to the prequels. Spending several seasons with the aging legacy characters and a young Ben Solo could add even more context and emotional resonance to the sequel trilogy.

You could totally argue that we shouldn’t have to get this seemingly important information for the films from a TV show, but I think that gets into a bigger debate on if certain information is really necessary or not in the main films. I don’t know honestly. For some, yes, for others, maybe not.

But as far as how Snoke came out of nowhere and undid the victory Han, Luke and Leia fought so hard for, the linchpin/scotch tape of the Original Trilogy victory, as you say, I think will be answered in the next animated series.

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

If this animated series never comes to fruition and you, or someone else, isn’t really satisfied with what was given, it would be interesting to see what could be done in a fan edit. Provide more context, or give him a new identity. There’s still a lot of mystery surrounding Snoke and the First Order, so honestly I would say just believe in your headcanon until a solid answer is introduced in the canon through a series or some novel.

fmalover said:

You are touching on the issues I have with the First Order. IMO the First Order should’ve been portrayed as using deception, guerilla tactics, infiltration and so on, after all they only possess a fraction of the power the Empire possessed, and instead of being lead by a random Force-wielder (in this case Snoke) it should have been lead by a Council of former high-ranking Imperial leaders, both military and political, who have been forced to adapt to fight under their apparent weak state, with ties to New Republic senators who are subtly using their influence to provide them with intel and resources, and they have been slowly gaining a foothold by conquering seemingly unimportant worlds without drawing suspicion.

I also can understand your issues with the First Order. Honestly, this is another reason why I hope they do make a show set between 6-7. The Sequel Trilogy will be over by the time it’ll probably start, so there won’t be as much need for secrecy, and maybe we’ll get more details on how the First Order came to be.

While I agree that seeing them as more of antagonistic underdogs would’ve also been cool, it’s not what we got, so we have to look at what’s been presented and fill in the gaps. While I could speculate on how things might be closer to what you imagined than it appears, it’d probably be better to see what the conclusion of the trilogy (or a possible series) gives us.

I totally understand you guys. Just trying to give my optimistic thoughts on the matter.