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Cowclops
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The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
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21-Jun-2005, 11:39 PM
lol, for the record, don't bother asking me for screen shots from the original cap. I just can't keep 150GB of video on my hard drive. What I really have to say is, to judge what it looks like you REALLY REALLY have to use the hardware that LASERDISCS were intended for. Get a traditional 32" standard definition 4:3 set, hook up a regular 480i DVD player to it, and watch it on that. Also, turn down the brightness so you can JUST BARELY tell the difference between the DVD player's anamorphic border and the "actually encoded on the disc" black border. That will give you the proper black level.

As laserman was hinting at, chroma noise on ALL laserdisc players is pretty much garbage compared to what people are used to watching especially on DVD. The noise reduction I did was to make it easier to compress, not to stamp out all the noise. In motion, it makes perfectly still scenes smoother, but anything with a slight amount of movement will retain all the original noise. If you grab a single frame, it might look goofy, even if the entire sequence looks fine.

Its pretty much the nature of LDs vs "single frames of LD rips people are seeing." Most people on here are seeing screen caps from LDs that have had the noise reduced to non existant levels... but in the process you get some less-than-desirable smearing and a bit of a loss of detail compared to if you minimized the amount of noise reduction.

Basically, a strong noise reduction filter DOES make for better screen shots, but it doesn't show what the video really looks like in motion. No noise reduction makes it just about impossible to compress, which can make for ok sharpness but adds lots of artifacts and crap too. I just went one step better than "no" noise reduction by using a setup so weak, it only affects the most still scenes.

To sum it up... you'll know what I mean when you see it.