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The kid was adopted, which likely explains the last name.

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Anyway, Hispanic doesn’t necessarily mean non-white.

The blue elephant in the room.

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None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

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Rask40 said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Well, if we are not going to get rid of the guns, our schools need protection. Maybe not armed teachers, but armed trained police/security guards.

Schools already have police officers in the building. It isn’t working.

I don’t think removing guns (or certain type of guns) from millions of law abiding citizens will work either. Besides that would be illegal.

And I don’t think any of the laws people like me want to see happen will mean anyone will get their guns taken away from them, only that future sales would be significantly more restrictive.

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TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

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Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

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Rask40 said:

removing guns (or certain type of guns) from millions of law abiding citizens… would be illegal.

Make it legal then. Laws are changeable, they aren’t “written in stone”, like commandments handed down from God. If the 2nd Amendment is an outdated and unhelpful piece of law, just get rid of it, or rewrite it to introduce an element of sanity and/or common sense.

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TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

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Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

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Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

I never said that. It should all be regulated, but regulation will not ultimately stop every possible instance. It will just keep it down to a minimum of occurrence.

Of course. That’s exactly what all of us who want stricter gun regulations wants and expects. So I don’t understand why anyone argues against it with the “They’ll still get guns illegally” defense and it infuriates me that that defense actually seems to be working, seeing as how there’s been essentially no meaningful legislation or really any steps taken toward the necessary regulation to reduce gun violence/mass shootings for years.

Also, a point - the pro-gun (or should I say anti-regulation) lobby seems to think that those of us who want tougher gun laws expect such laws to completely eliminate these incidents. We don’t, that’s pretty much impossible and we know that. But 50 people dead from a mass shooting or two in a year is a hell of a lot better than hundreds or thousands from dozens of mass shootings in a year.

The thing is, we are all being over protective of our stance, because of the extremes on both sides. Plenty of people actually want to ban personal ownership of guns. This angers people who want to keep their guns and they start thinking everyone thinks this way. Apply that to the other side of the arguement and you’ve got a bunch of people who can’t compromise.

I agree with you though.

Truth is, even though a lot of people would prefer if there were no guns at all, almost none of them are actually advocating for that right now. Most people just want some level of reform. So, essentially, the two sides of the debate are “please let’s do something/anything,” and the other side is “let’s do literally nothing at all.” Only one of those seem like an extreme to me.

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TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

None really, but if I had to pick I would go with Rush. Very talented musicians that I really respect a lot, just don’t really like the singers voice. I have enjoyed listening to recent recordings of them more since his voice isn’t as crazy any more.

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CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

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Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

None really, but if I had to pick I would go with Rush. Very talented musicians that I really respect a lot, just don’t really like the singers voice. I have enjoyed listening to recent recordings of them more since his voice isn’t as crazy any more.

Fair.

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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

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CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

If this is it, please let me know.

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DominicCobb said:

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Dek Rollins said:

Collipso said:

The “they’ll get the guns anyway even if illegally” argument is nonsense. By that logic, why bother having laws in the first place?

In many states, as well as federally, smoking pot is illegal. People still do it constantly because they have some sort of access to it illegally. The same applies to pretty much any other product. If there is demand for it, at least a few of those demanding it will get their hands on it somehow.

Any other illegal drug, alcoholic beverages during prohibition, alcoholic beverages to minors today, porn to minors, child porn, etc. is accessible in some way to those who seek it hard enough. The same applies to weapons, especially considering the whole 3D printing situation.

So we should stop regulating child porn, alcohol, etc. because people are going to get it anyway, right? That’s what I’m hearing and it’s fucking stupid.

I never said that. It should all be regulated, but regulation will not ultimately stop every possible instance. It will just keep it down to a minimum of occurrence.

Of course. That’s exactly what all of us who want stricter gun regulations wants and expects. So I don’t understand why anyone argues against it with the “They’ll still get guns illegally” defense and it infuriates me that that defense actually seems to be working, seeing as how there’s been essentially no meaningful legislation or really any steps taken toward the necessary regulation to reduce gun violence/mass shootings for years.

Also, a point - the pro-gun (or should I say anti-regulation) lobby seems to think that those of us who want tougher gun laws expect such laws to completely eliminate these incidents. We don’t, that’s pretty much impossible and we know that. But 50 people dead from a mass shooting or two in a year is a hell of a lot better than hundreds or thousands from dozens of mass shootings in a year.

The thing is, we are all being over protective of our stance, because of the extremes on both sides. Plenty of people actually want to ban personal ownership of guns. This angers people who want to keep their guns and they start thinking everyone thinks this way. Apply that to the other side of the arguement and you’ve got a bunch of people who can’t compromise.

I agree with you though.

Truth is, even though a lot of people would prefer if there were no guns at all, almost none of them are actually advocating for that right now. Most people just want some level of reform. So, essentially, the two sides of the debate are “please let’s do something/anything,” and the other side is “let’s do literally nothing at all.” Only one of those seem like an extreme to me.

Also very much this.

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CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

If this is it, please let me know.

The men who hold high places must be the ones to start.

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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

If this is it, please let me know.

The men who hold high places must be the ones to start.

You crack me up.

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TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

Usually the focus on racial and gender identity in contemporary political debates annoys me. The prolonged discussion here was becoming such a parody it was almost amusing.

The blue elephant in the room.

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CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

If this is it, please let me know.

The men who hold high places must be the ones to start.

You crack me up.

Be cool or be cast out.

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Today the FBI admits it failed to investigate after someone close to Cruz called the FBI about Cruz’s guns and desire to kill people. This appears to be on top of the reporting by the youtuber of Cruz’s comment online about wanting to shoot at a school.

If we want to talk about obvious non-controversial steps we can take to prevent mass shootings, how about figuring out how law enforcement can be more effective/competent?

The blue elephant in the room.

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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

None of it means anything in relation to the current topic.

I don’t know, my name is Jacob and I do in fact use ladders from time to time.

Ok but I need to know if you’re a Rush fan, a Huey Lewis fan, or an Adrian Lyne fan.

That’s like Sophie’s choice, man. Harsh. Sometimes bad is bad.

These are 1/3 of fighting words.

Oh, so I’m walking on a thin line, am I?

WRONG 1/3

If this is it, please let me know.

The men who hold high places must be the ones to start.

You crack me up.

Be cool or be cast out.

I said cool is the rule.

I was at this obligatory social event with a friend once. We didn’t really want to be there, so we entertained ourselves by inventing a game. While we were having conversations, every time one of us named a band from the 80’s, we’d get a point, but only if nobody else noticed what we’d done – i.e. if it worked relatively well in the conversation and nobody said, “Hey, wasn’t that a band from the eighties?” There were lots of easy ones – the Police, for example. I was particularly proud of working the Dead Milkmen into normal conversation without anyone noticing.

Not sure what made me think of that. And no, I’m not suggesting it. Yet.

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Jeebus said:

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Mrebo said:

Maybe the focus on ineffective broad proposals is the problem. Raising the age to own a firearm to 21 would be more focused and I think legally defensible.

the inevitable argument would be “whoa, I’m old enough to be drafted to carry a weapon in a war, but not old enough to buy one myself???”

Raise the draft age. Or, even better, eliminate the draft.

We did that. The United States military is a 100% all-volunteer force. No one is drafted ever anymore because of the response by the anti-war movement during the Vietnam War.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Maybe the focus on ineffective broad proposals is the problem. Raising the age to own a firearm to 21 would be more focused and I think legally defensible.

the inevitable argument would be “whoa, I’m old enough to be drafted to carry a weapon in a war, but not old enough to buy one myself???”

Raise the draft age. Or, even better, eliminate the draft.

We did that. The United States military is a 100% all-volunteer force. No one is drafted ever anymore because of the response by the anti-war movement during the Vietnam War.

Carter (no, not Carter USM – President Carter) resurrected the draft in 1980, one of his nastiest legacies. Nobody’s been drafted since due to lack of need, not lack of ability.

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