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“by having the type of complicated messed-up characters who aren’t necessarily embraced on broadcast.”
Sounds like a character decision to me. I don’t know how you got where you got from that.
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And streaming services aren’t broadcast, they are premium subscription services, like HBO. Could they/should they put a card up front that says “Language, Violence, Nudity, etc.” like HBO? Yeah sure, that’d be nice. But censorship is bullshit.
It seems to me that in 10 or more years streaming services are all that most people will use anymore. Back in the day, one could channel surf and not even bother wondering whether something was appropriate or why. I’m just feeling like the content produced by streaming services isn’t bothered about whether it’s mostly low-brow.
Broadcast shows have censorship because they’re over the air and freely accessible to anyone. Basic cable is kinda censored only because of advertisers. Premium cable is not advertised, it is a paid subscription, and it is not censored. Streaming services much more closely fit the latter.
Also, that’s not what low brow means. Streaming services like Netflix just happen to be very hands off and no rules, not because they “don’t care,” but rather because they care a lot about quality, and the best way to achieve that is to put faith in the creatives to make a quality show. To slap an arbitrary rule on them like “no swearing” wouldn’t be conducive to that kind of environment. And you’ll notice too that not every Netflix show has swearing in tits. The Marvel shows, for example, know to stay in the PG-13 lane. You don’t need laws to handle this kind of thing.
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“by having the type of complicated messed-up characters who aren’t necessarily embraced on broadcast.”
Sounds like a character decision to me. I don’t know how you got where you got from that.
You’re right, they aren’t saying flat out that they’re doing it “just because,” there’s a difference between “with this medium we have different opportunities” and “with this medium there’s different opportunities so we need to force them in because they can.”
ALTHOUGH just because that’s what they’re saying doesn’t mean that’s actually the case with this show. These characters aren’t that complicated or messed up - the character that says the f word would basically feel right at home in a CBS sitcom. But that’s all way beside the point.
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I’m not for censorship on streaming platforms, but a more accessible and informative content guide like HBO and the like do before their broadcasts would be appreciated. Sometimes a TVMA means swearing and violence, sometimes it means graphic sexual content, sometimes both - it would be nice to not have to guess what kind of MA content you’re about to see before you watch.
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On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.
I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.
You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob or use incredibly common place words that unfortunately hurt your ears.
So you’re saying that before I watch anything anywhere online, I am required to do research on it? And you’re also attacking my interest in tastefulness or decency? You might not care if words and actions are “incredibly common place” among your circle of friends and family, but don’t belittle me because I do care.
FWIW, I share your sensibilities. Even if “attacking” is too strong a word, judging/belittling is accurate. So many times I’ve been told I would love Veep and I assure them I don’t find it entertaining. And it’s not just there’s lots of swearing but the fact that underneath the swearing there’s very little that’s amusing or interesting. I agree swearing is used as a crutch by far too many.
The fact that something is incredibly commonplace doesn’t make it any more attractive. Whether there’s a time/place for it varies by taste. The fact that our society finds it increasingly acceptable is irrelevant to whether we personally like it, though it does mean we are subject to the media catering to those tastes.
At the end of the day, when anyone can put content out there, the responsibility falls on us to monitor content. Too many dangers in getting the government involved.
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I’m not for censorship on streaming platforms, but a more accessible and informative content guide like HBO and the like do before their broadcasts would be appreciated. Sometimes a TVMA means swearing and violence, sometimes it means graphic sexual content, sometimes both - it would be nice to not have to guess what kind of MA content you’re about to see before you watch.
I don’t disagree with that.
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On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.
I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.
You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob or use incredibly common place words that unfortunately hurt your ears.
So you’re saying that before I watch anything anywhere online, I am required to do research on it? And you’re also attacking my interest in tastefulness or decency? You might not care if words and actions are “incredibly common place” among your circle of friends and family, but don’t belittle me because I do care.
FWIW, I share your sensibilities. Even if “attacking” is too strong a word, judging/belittling is accurate. So many times I’ve been told I would love Veep and I assure them I don’t find it entertaining. And it’s not just there’s lots of swearing but the fact that underneath the swearing there’s very little that’s amusing or interesting. I agree swearing is used as a crutch by far too many.
The fact that something is incredibly commonplace doesn’t make it any more attractive. Whether there’s a time/place for it varies by taste. The fact that our society finds it increasingly acceptable is irrelevant to whether we personally like it, though it does mean we are subject to the media catering to those tastes.
At the end of the day, when anyone can put content out there, the responsibility falls on us to monitor content. Too many dangers in getting the government involved.
I’m not trying to belittle, it’s just crazy to me that one would want the government or whatever to force TV shows to adhere to their personal tastes. I go back to my chef using salt analogy. I don’t have a problem with people not liking bad words, you can judge us as improper or unattractive or whatever the fuck, I don’t care. But please don’t censor.
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I have noticed recently basic cable is getting away with showing people humping in a way the MPAA used to threaten to slap the dreaded NC-17 on movies for. At least on TNT at night.
I hear shit and asshole used on basic cable shows frequently now. FX has gotten away with a few F-bombs late at night. It’s kind of amusing that the feature films they show have been edited for such things.
I guess V-Chips don’t work on streaming, not that anyone ever used the darn things in the first place. 😉
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Nudity, yes. Swearing … only when it isn’t gratuitous.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Clothing should be banned, on or off screen.
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Clothes should be referred to as “fuck covers.”
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So NOW this is the porno thread?
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Nudity, yes. Swearing … only when it isn’t gratuitous.
I think you got that backwards.
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The blue elephant in the room.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Nudity, yes. Swearing … only when it isn’t gratuitous.
I think you got that backwards.
Agreed.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Nudity, yes. Swearing … only when it isn’t gratuitous.
I think you got that backwards.
To a closeted nudist, there’s no such thing as gratuitous nudity.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Clothing should be banned, on or off screen.
not around here, it’s cold out.
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Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Clothing should be banned, on or off screen.
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I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.
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I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.
Worthless piece of shit.
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He looks constipated.
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We left-leaning Hoosiers tried to warn you, but you didn’t listen.
YOU DIDN’T LISTEN!
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I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.
I don’t understand, what does that quote have to do with the pic?