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Someone just dictionexplained.

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Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.

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TV’s Frink said:

Someone just dictionexplained.

Dom is right; it’s better placed in Current Events. But I enjoyed doing it anyway. Webster’ should send a few pennies my way for this kind of thing.

OT politics are the most fun of all.

The blue elephant in the room.

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DominicCobb said:

Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.

Come on Dom, it’s common knowledge that Lucas would’ve won the 1978 Oscars if he was jewish like his opponents!!1

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DominicCobb said:

Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.

But there isn’t a thread for general social/cultural issues. …for which such a thread could also include the subject of kneeling at football games. But we also talk about that in here.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s politics at all.

See politics, definition 3a

It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.

I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.

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DominicCobb said:

Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.

if they are talking about holding hearing and legislation as Mrebo said, that makes political and ok for this thread.

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Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s politics at all.

See politics, definition 3a

It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.

I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.

Depends on the type of regulation. Network TV content is still regulated. There is an argument that the internet should be regulated in a similar way for the same reason. And a case could be made that YT is a party to certain illegal and dangerous content on its site. Probably not a great case, but enough to exert enormous pressure to change how it operates.

The blue elephant in the room.

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chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.

But there isn’t a thread for general social/cultural issues. …for which such a thread could also include the subject of kneeling at football games. But we also talk about that in here.

It’s barely that, though. Logan Paul is a practically indefensible shitbag. YouTube cutting him off isn’t really a social/cultural issue, it’s just a thing that happened that made sense.

So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.

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CA female legislator accused of groping.

politicians

The blue elephant in the room.

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Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s politics at all.

See politics, definition 3a

It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.

I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.

YouTube is privately owned. Even still, is the FCC violating the first amendment? (my thought on that, by the way: maybe!). Anyway, isn’t this just about not allowing someone to monetize their video?

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DominicCobb said:

So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.

People don’t post current events in here?

Also, people don’t at times simply post articles in here and let the chips fall as far as followup conversation? Where did the article about the sexual harassment whatsit at Google (and the following conversation about corporate culture in Silicon Valley) get posted?

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s politics at all.

See politics, definition 3a

It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.

I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.

YouTube is privately owned. Even still, is the FCC violating the first amendment? (my thought on that, by the way: maybe!). Anyway, isn’t this just about not allowing someone to monetize their video?

Agree on the maybe! re FCC. Re Logan, yes. But points to the shoddy fashion YT ignores presence of most bad content. Agree most of this better suited to Current Events, but 1st Amendment issue gets the issue closer to home in this thread.

The blue elephant in the room.

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chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.

People don’t post current events in here?

In the past when there wasn’t a dedicated current events thread, sure.

Also, people don’t at times simply post articles in here and let the chips fall as far as followup conversation? Where did the article about the sexual harassment whatsit at Google (and the following conversation about corporate culture in Silicon Valley) get posted?

Usually when people post articles without comment, the political link is obvious. And this isn’t the first time someone has posted something in this thread and someone has questioned if it’s the right spot for it.

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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s politics at all.

See politics, definition 3a

It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.

I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.

YouTube is privately owned. Even still, is the FCC violating the first amendment? (my thought on that, by the way: maybe!). Anyway, isn’t this just about not allowing someone to monetize their video?

Agree on the maybe! re FCC. Re Logan, yes. But points to the shoddy fashion YT ignores presence of most bad content. Agree most of this better suited to Current Events, but 1st Amendment issue gets the issue closer to home in this thread.

I agree too that YT needs to be a lot better about that stuff.

And yeah, the first amendment stuff is suited for here, but I’m not really sure how far that discussion could go. It’s hard to say it’d be a violation based on the things I mentioned.

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On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.

I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.

People don’t post current events in here?

In the past when there wasn’t a dedicated current events thread, sure.

I admit I didn’t know there was one.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Two big political stories:

Collipso does look like a green headed robot.

Black Panther got a bad review.

The blue elephant in the room.

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chyron8472 said:

On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.

I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.

Are you an American? I’m curious, not judging 😉

The blue elephant in the room.

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What is the point of a debt ceiling if it’s raised every time it’s reached?

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chyron8472 said:

On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.

I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.

Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.

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Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.

I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.

Are you an American? I’m curious, not judging 😉

Yes. Why?

I’m not saying producers can’t create mature content. I’m saying I wish they didn’t choose to just because they can. I wish it was easier to curate content and sift out adult stuff from something safer for my daughter to watch or something my wife wouldn’t want to quickly turn off.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.

I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.

Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.

It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.

I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.

 
I like that OTA TV broadcast content is censored to a degree. Creativity be damned. You don’t need to be vulgar or lewd to show creativity in your writing. Censorship does not inherently stifle creative thought. Some would even argue that lewdness and vulgarity shows a lack of creativity, rather than showing creative freedom.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.