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The most annoying character was that porg with the quivering lip who was trying to ruin Chewie’s dinner.
How would you react if someone ate your brother?
The blue elephant in the room.
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS ** — Page 160
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The most annoying character was that porg with the quivering lip who was trying to ruin Chewie’s dinner.
How would you react if someone ate your brother?
Which brother?
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Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.
Here’s a helpful post from the other forum.
You’re the only one. Rose is the worst Star Wars character ever. Yes…even worse than Jar Jar. At least he has good theories about him being a Sith Lord. Rose served zero purpose the entire movienother than trying to save her crush’s life while sacrificing the entire universe to the FO.
Where’s that post from? I remember reading it somewhere…
I can’t find it now because there’s too many pages of outrage in too short a time, but it’s in one of these two threads.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153592/content-update-1-10-2018-mega/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153597/hold-on-to-what-you-love/p1
The best part is that it might not even be Rose that’s added to the game. It might be Holdo. I would love days of whining about something that ends up not even happening.
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The most annoying character was that porg with the quivering lip who was trying to ruin Chewie’s dinner.
How would you react if someone ate your brother?
Which brother?
The best and/or tastiest one.
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I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.
smh
I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).
People are weird.
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I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.
smh
I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).
People are weird.
No kidding. #rotjnappingpigmenneverforget
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Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.
Here’s a helpful post from the other forum.
You’re the only one. Rose is the worst Star Wars character ever. Yes…even worse than Jar Jar. At least he has good theories about him being a Sith Lord. Rose served zero purpose the entire movienother than trying to save her crush’s life while sacrificing the entire universe to the FO.
Where’s that post from? I remember reading it somewhere…
I can’t find it now because there’s too many pages of outrage in too short a time, but it’s in one of these two threads.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153592/content-update-1-10-2018-mega/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153597/hold-on-to-what-you-love/p1The best part is that it might not even be Rose that’s added to the game. It might be Holdo. I would love days of whining about something that ends up not even happening.
I bet you if it’s Holdo she will get just as much hate.
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The most annoying character was that porg with the quivering lip who was trying to ruin Chewie’s dinner.
How would you react if someone ate your brother?
Which brother?
The best and/or tastiest one.
I’d probably stay far away. If I were a bird, I might beg for scraps…wait a minute, that is what the porg was doing!
The blue elephant in the room.
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I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.
smh
I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).
People are weird.
No kidding. #rotjnappingpigmenneverforget
Hey, I generally liked the subplot too. I was never too eager to get back to the slow speed chase. Although that bubble lady with the revealing dress was too much.
The blue elephant in the room.
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For me the character of Rose feels a bit manufactured and unnecessary. She doesn’t add anything to the main story, really seeming to just be a counterpart for Finn on his pointless side quest to Canto Bight and she only exists in that particular sub-plot to use her “past” to tie in the ‘shades of grey’, ‘animal cruelty’ and ‘oppressed slave labor by the filthy rich’ themes explored there (along with all the prequel level cringe-fest elements). I mean, it just so happens that this random person that stops Finn stealing an escape pod also harks from the very planet and city they need to visit to get this Code Breaker from in order to save the Rebels…
Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
Anyway, I think there are many issues with “Rose” and what probably put the nail in the coffin for many people was her actions near the end of the movie in stopping Finn from sacrificing himself to save the Rebels. Finn was actually about to do something that would have contributed something significant and meaningful to the TLJ story and give you a stronger reason to feel something for his character apart from just being “likeable”. But no, RJ can have something play out as you expect it to (btw, I haven’t forgetton the replies to my previous post and will get back to them 😉 ), even when he’s the one leading you to it - at the very last second when you feel Finn’s fate is all but inevitable, Rose comes from the side and smashes him out of the way, denying a noble self sacrifice in the name of the Rebellion. Furthermore, the potential for the crash killing both of them makes this action outright ridiculous as not only did she doom the Rebels but also could have made her action even more pointless by killing Finn and herself in the process and its these matters that turn Rose’s character from being not only pointless but also badly written.
I’d also like to point out that the movie completely ignores the fact that there is logically no way for her to catch and pass Finn (after having turned back earlier) in order for her to distinctly come from the side and smash him out of the way (on top of the mysteriously absent walker fire).
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Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.
Here’s a helpful post from the other forum.
You’re the only one. Rose is the worst Star Wars character ever. Yes…even worse than Jar Jar. At least he has good theories about him being a Sith Lord. Rose served zero purpose the entire movienother than trying to save her crush’s life while sacrificing the entire universe to the FO.
Where’s that post from? I remember reading it somewhere…
I can’t find it now because there’s too many pages of outrage in too short a time, but it’s in one of these two threads.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153592/content-update-1-10-2018-mega/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153597/hold-on-to-what-you-love/p1The best part is that it might not even be Rose that’s added to the game. It might be Holdo. I would love days of whining about something that ends up not even happening.
I bet you if it’s Holdo she will get just as much hate.
There’s plenty of people saying “I didn’t really like Holdo but she’s tons better than Rose and if we get Holdo that’s fine.” And I guarantee those same people will lose their minds with rage when it ends up being Holdo.
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Just to note, Val, the actress is Vietnamese.
The blue elephant in the room.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
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A perspective:
https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/950497196704608256
I mean, people still don’t even know what the hell Yoda EVEN IS, much less who his parents are.
But Rey Nobody from Nowhere gotta have her birth certificate & 2 forms of ID before we’ll let her lift some rocks & fly some spaceships real good.
OK.
This is a dumb tweet.
The characters aren’t presented in the same way.
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I’d also like to point out that the movie completely ignores the fact that there is logically no way for her to catch and pass Finn (after having turned back earlier) in order for her to distinctly come from the side and smash him out of the way (on top of the mysteriously absent walker fire).
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LOL. um. If you rewatch this, you will notice that flying in the ‘eye’ of the cannon slows Finn down quite a bit. I have no idea why he is flying in there, but he is. And is SLOWS HIM DOWN. therefore it is possible. I have no idea why the walkers stopped firing though.
Again, either enjoy the film, or don’t. but these nitpicks shouldn’t sway you one way or another.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
Then how do you explain them casting a second Vietnamese actress to be Rose’s sister? Coincidence, I think not!
😛
The blue elephant in the room.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
Yeah they weren’t, but their Chinese overlords demanded it.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
Yeah they weren’t, but their Chinese overlords demanded it.
RJ did another twist!
The blue elephant in the room.
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Just to note, Val, the actress is Vietnamese.
Ah k, my mistake. I was under the impression she was Chinese.
I’d also like to point out that the movie completely ignores the fact that there is logically no way for her to catch and pass Finn (after having turned back earlier) in order for her to distinctly come from the side and smash him out of the way (on top of the mysteriously absent walker fire).
.Val
LOL. um. If you rewatch this, you will notice that flying in the ‘eye’ of the cannon slows Finn down quite a bit. I have no idea why he is flying in there, but he is. And is SLOWS HIM DOWN. therefore it is possible. I have no idea why the walkers stopped firing though.
Again, either enjoy the film, or don’t. but these nitpicks shouldn’t sway you one way or another.
Yeah can’t say I noticed that. If that is the case then it’s not very obvious IMO.
The nitpicks don’t sway me one way or the other. They are all tiny parts of the WHOLE reason I don’t like it but nevertheless I don’t see an issue with pointing them out when it is relevant.
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This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
It must be the way the character comes across as to me she feels rather inserted and manufactured for reasons other than story related.
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Well said, mate.
Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.
Neither did I. In fact, I specifically said feel free to dissect and rant. My point was to occasionally give some thought to taking a break from trying to beat the franchise and the fans who may not agree with you.
I might have overreacted a bit, so sorry about that. I do feel strongly about such things. I don’t like the suggestion, that there’s some link between negative opinions about the film, and negative behavior in the forum or towards other fans. I think both sides give as much as they get. As such, the idea that too many negative opinions creates some sort of toxic environment or something is alien to me, and it suggests some sort of bias for positive opinions, who apparently don’t have to take a break from praising the franchise. Most of us try to put some thought into these posts, whether positive or negative, and I think these posts should be judged on the merit of their content. It has been suggested by Jason, that too many negative posts allways warrent moderator action. I obviously feel this is not in the best interests of an open forum with a free flow of ideas, but also feel this is a bit disingenuous, considering the mostly negative threads on the prequels and special edition changes on this forum.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
Huh, if that’s true, color me surprised, considering how many important people were here for this diversity question.
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Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.
This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.
Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.
This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.
Huh, if that’s true, color me surprised, considering how many important people were here for this diversity question.
If I remember correctly, Tatiana Maslany and Gugu Mbatha-Raw were a couple of the actresses in the running for the role.
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Huh, I stand corrected.
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Again, either enjoy the film, or don’t. but these nitpicks shouldn’t sway you one way or another.
The biggest problem plaguing movie reviewing nowadays, especially just people making reviews on YouTube, is that people get WAAAYY too caught up in the details and the nitpicks. The mindset is growing, that a film can’t be good unless every little plot detail is explained, and everything obeys the laws of physics and science and what not. People are slowly being unable to put aside things like that just to have a good time watching a movie
I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.
smh
I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).
People are weird.
People saying that Rose is worse than Jar Jar are letting their (already misplaced) hatred get the better of them. I find it hard to believe that someone who genuinely hates Jar Jar thinks that Rose is worse than her. Rose wasn’t even a bad character, she was just involved in a slightly unnecessary subplot and said a few dumb things, not unlike every main Star Wars character at some point
No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.