The TIE fighters being there and Millenium Falcon dropping in out of no where (with accompanying “WOOO!” except it’s not Han saying it this time) to save the lone ship flying in a straight line (like in a trench) as the last hope in destroying “old Death Star tech” just before it fires on the Rebel base, is an element taken straight out of ANH and mixed into the recycled TESB battle of Hoth.
I agree that at first I had attributed the scene to that same particular trope but after looking at it in a new light of realisation I am sure this is Luke’s final trench run recycled for this scene, or at least parts of it and the Falcon coming to the rescue out of no where. We just needed Rey to shout over the radio “You’re all clear Finn. Now let’s blow this thing and go home!” and there would be no doubt about it 😉
Except this doesn’t happen in the film. The Falcon appears and draws the fighters off long before the weapon even starts firing and Finn does his Kamikaze run. The speeders are flying in all directions to evade the TIE’s when the Falcon appears.
My memory is a bit dim on the TIEs themselves so I’ll take your word on it but even that aside I’m still certain it’s the trench run / Falcon save repurposed to an extent.
for all intensive purposes he might as well be traveling down a trench.
for all intents* and purposes.
Cheers, not sure why I always hear “intensive purposes” when someone says that which I’ve then repeated here without even realising it.
The superstructure chase in ROTJ would be the one other time.
This comment just made me realise the chase through the red crystal caves in TLJ is the ROTJ superstructure chase scene recycled, complete with TIEs smashing into parts of the cave / superstructure and the Falcon bursting back outside through a shower of smashed crystals, much like the Falcon bursting back out into space through a fireball as the second Death Star is about to explode.
Unbelievable. The more you look into TLJ, the more you realise how unoriginal it is in so many aspects. While I thought TFA took it a bit far in recreating many ANH beats, I was able to pretty much accept it as a way to safely re-establish the franchise and set the tone and aesthetic of the new trilogy. Overall I enjoyed the movie and having got that out of the way with new story arcs set in motion and plenty of questions to be answered, I was expecting TLJ to be the movie that diverged from the safe rehashed / formulaic approach and cover new ground but that still took its roots from the previous movie. It’s anything but that though - there are new characters, ships and planets but the TFA roots have been discarded and replaced with essentially the same old story of the Rebellion vs the Empire with a Hero’s journey that ultimately must face of against their dark side nemesis, all while recycling as many parts from the 3 OT films as they can.
Having seen TLJ though, I now understand it could never be what I was expecting and that’s because RJ has a compulsion with this movie to do the exact opposite of what is expected. It was a pretty common belief that everyone was expecting TLJ to be the movie that was going to be different, darker and setting new ground after the safe bet that TFA was. So in order to do the opposite he just made another rehash movie (simply disguised a bit better by jumbling it up a bit with the edges blurred) which is what everyone didn’t want. Even the darker themes are subverted by the constant stream of tone killing humour. This movie is literally RJ giving the middle finger to a fandom and it’s expectations, making writing choices solely directed at doing the opposite of what the fandom wanted or expected, no matter the cost to the story and cohesion to the overarching saga and previously established characters and lore.
.Val