If one were to explore the argument that Rey is instantly OP, yet untrained, and in being so poops on the concepts that Yoda was trying to teach Luke in ESB, I can see that. But I can also see a “The Force works in mysterious ways” argument. For myself, it doesn’t bother me for her to be untrained. It’s odd, certainly, but I wouldn’t call it “ruinous to the concept of The Force” or what have you.
Really, I would just like to know why she is so powerful, and hope it is explored or explained at some point.
Getting back to my original point, but without the deviation into sexism…
You have to look at the film holistically to understand.
To understand what? That the plot and character developments didn’t match percieved expectations?
Just because it doesn’t, that doesn’t make it bad nor does it mean hardcore Star Wars fans were intentionally jerked around.
Of course not, that would be silly. If I’m not explaining it well check out the David Stewart videos.
I’m just starting to watch his TLJ analysis, and he immediately accuses TLJ and Rian Johnson of deliberately attacking expectations of the fans.
I do not agree with that. Maybe if the problem is it doesn’t meet one’s expectations, then the solution should be to curb one’s expectations. David Stewart says that because it is Episode 8, that expectations are inherent and necessary, and that TLJ is therefore hate mail for those expectations.
I could not disagree more. And at the end of the day, we only have control over our own responses to things. If you want to like it, it does actually fit, and in a way that doesn’t make everything else suck. It doesn’t have to be a meta-commentary if you don’t make it a meta-commentary. Rian is not telling OUT purists to go f*ck themselves. If one wants to make it about that, then they’re going to, I guess. But it doesn’t have to be about that, and Rian didn’t say that it was.
If people want to enjoy it for the film that it is, and let Star Wars be Star Wars, in and of itself and its own universe, without injecting real world socio-culturally-political nonsense into it, then they can. And I would say, they should.
If there is any suggestion of sexism on my part, you are gravely mistaken.
No, not yours. Mine. I was getting back to arguing against what David Stewart said and omitted the part that derailed conversation from it. I was omitting reference to (what I believe to be) his sexism, not yours.