The argument over whether Rey won her fight against Kylo in TFA is exactly the same as the argument over Luke force choking the guards at Jabba’s palace - until brought up, one could not imagine it possibly being seen any other way nor then understand how it is.

For me at least, it has always been clear as day that Luke force chokes the guards and that Rey won against Kylo. He’s lying vanquished on the ground before Rey for a minimum of 10 seconds before the ground even starts shaking. He was disarmed, laying wounded on the ground and in the context of the dual - defeated.

Anyway I can appreciate there are some that have an alternate view on these scenes but I don’t think I’ll ever understand how.

.Val