Rey won a lightsaber fight without any training at all. This indicates that she is special and incredibly strong in the force and it begs for an explanation.
When was this lightsabre fight?
In TFA.
You are referring to the sabre fight vs Ren in TFA - where he was already injured from Chewbacca’s powerful crossbow shot, was bleeding from it, also taking a hit from his sabre fight with Finn, and also felt conflicted & weak over just killing his father? In a fight in which the aim was not to kill Rey - but to bring her to Snoke… a fight in which he actually offered to be her teacher… and in which Rey was on the backfoot for nearly all of it before ‘letting the force in’…
Rey didn’t win the lightsabre fight at all… even after ‘letting the force in’ as it were - though she had gained the upper hand by scarring him & put him on his arse - yet the fight was broken up by the planet coming apart…
Um, she did win the fight. The only reason he survived or wasn’t taken prisoner is because of the planet coming apart.
No, he’s just on his arse. There was no winner due to the planet coming apart.
Go watch the fight again. He was on ass before the planet came apart. He was on the ground helpless for 15 seconds before the planet came apart and they were separated. She won the fight.
Look this and tell me she didn’t win the fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTz-ahXyyI&feature=youtu.be&t=4m18s
How about you go watch all of the fight again? And post in on here (don’t worry - I have below).
I did watch all of it and posted the ending above.
Just because - as I stated before - he is on his arse and scarred in the final few blows of the fight - doesn’t mean she won the fight.
He was on the ground helpless. Him scarred, her not. She still had her Saber, he didn’t. I don’t know how you can look at that ending and tell me that she didn’t win the fight.
Just because he is scarred - doesn’t mean she won the fight - again see my previous posts.
The planet came apart before there was any ‘winner’.
You are flat out wrong.
The planet didn’t come apart before there was any winner? Right…
Selecting certain scenes from an overall event to highlight an opinion does not make it fact. I find it baffling that you think it does.
I find it baffling that you don’t think the end of a lightsaber fight determines who wins. I find it baffling that you can look at that ending and not think Rey won.
Once again, the planet coming apart ended the fight, no?
Try watching the whole fight, here you go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTz-ahXyyI - and put it into context of my previous posts. Rey is on the back foot and losing the fight - on the edge of a ‘cliff’ before she let’s the force in… and even then the planet breaks apart before there any winner…
As I said above, I already watched it. All of it
And in the context of my previous posts? No, I didn’t think so - no worries.
Mate, that you repeatedly ignore what is being posted in reply to you just re-affirms my thinking that you are selectively cherrypicking parts of responses that you don’t agree with or wish to engage with.
That’s cool. I’ll leave it there, by all means feel free to repeat yourself yet again.