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Disney Ruined Star Wars
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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29-Dec-2017, 12:34 PM

Mrebo said:

adywan said:

Mrebo said:

adywan said:

Mrebo said:

adywan said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mocata said:

Warbler said:

I don’t recall Luke choking anyone in ROTJ

I thought he was using a Jedi mind trick there.

I agree with Warb. We know what it looks like if someone is choking and that wasn’t what happened in that scene. I have always read the scene as Luke convincing the GGs to go back to their posts and sleep, their hands on their chests in a restrained or passive position.

Really? Even with the guards grabbing their throats and making choking noises? He was obviously force choking.

Pig sounds and hands on chests. Also clear they are not pushed.

Choking sounds with them clutching their throats. It’s very clear choking sounds too and not pig like sound either. Watch the scene again and you’ll see how clear it is that Luke is force choking them. And, if you need more proof, then this is direct from the novel:

Luke raised his hand and pointed at them. Before they could draw their weapons they were clutching their own throats, choking, gasping.

It is an interesting piece of evidence, though it doesn’t accurately describe the scene in the film re the weapons. Another piece of evidence is the script which doesn’t appear to mention choking.

Can i ask you, did you watch the scene again (which clearly shows they are choking by not only their actions but the clear choking sound effects) or are you just going by memory?

First memory and then watched it. I do see how one could believe they are being choked. I think it is quite ambiguous. My perception of the scene coincidentally lines up with the description found in scripts found online. Maybe it changed in production and you are right. But I don’t think the nature of their pig grunts is quite so clear.

Luke force choked the guard just like his father force choked people in the previous movies. The difference was his dad liked those powers, and thought they made him stronger, and continued down the dark path as he lusted for power over other people. Luke was tempted to follow the same path but he chose the light side of the force. He wanted to be a good guy and help his family and friends and fight and sacrifice for a greater cause.

But in this movie, throw all that out the window I guess. /mad