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Post #114957

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Patrick R.
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.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
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14-Jun-2005, 8:59 AM
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I'll have to compare the Faces and Def. Col. versions, as I have both LD sets.


MeBe,

That would be great as it may take me a while to dig out my VHS and capture the scene.

I am curious about which one is better because I've heard both.

A friend of mine used both sources for their project. They liked the DC better for picture quality, but the Faces set better for IVTC. What they did was use the DC for most of the project and the Faces for the side breaks because the IVTC got messed up on side breaks. Here is what he says, "The problem occurs when the segue between the shots (in telecined video) have BLENDED fields, that is, when there is a frame which is composed of 1/2 field of previous shot and 1/2 field of next shot.

A specific example from ESB is where the shot changes from the Imperial officer aboard the Imperial Stardestroyer Avenger saying, "Alert all commands. Deploy the fleet." Then he walks away. The shot - and the laserdisc side - ends at that point. The next shot - the beginning of the next laserdisc side - is where you see the Falcon attached to the Stardestroyer. Well, in the "uninterrupted" version of the video, which I captured from the CLV discs, the segue between those two shots were actually interlaced together in the telecined video (30fps). Since it was interrupted in the CAV version (because of disc change), they dropped the blended field for the CAV release. Thus 1 frame is lost, and is unrecoverable. This is where IVTC won't be 100% perfect for this conversion of ESB."

This link I found says this, "...yes, the CAV boxed set (NOT the SE boxed set) is the best way to go. I have it and it smears less than the CLD Face LD's."

This link says this, "The Star Wars Definitive Collection CAV laserdiscs look noticeably better than the "faces" CLV set, with superior clarity and less smearing..."

This link says this, "When Image originally released the CLV THX 'faces' versions, they were pressed at Pioneer. A subsequent pressing was done in Japan at Kurari. These are signified with a 'K' prior to the item number on the inner ring of the discs just outside the label. These pressings had a much cleaner transfer than the Pioneer versions." That may be the reason there is a debate about which looks better.

I still may buy the Faces LD's regardless of which one looks better when I get the money because I want smooth IVTC.

Patrick