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Rey Has some amazing Acting, The writing made her to much of an all powerful Mary Sue.
There are no stakes or maturation she goes through. A simple edit and re-order of scenes (perhaps from both movies) could fix this.

The Finn pointless side quest needs to go. There is a lot of good footage that could be re-used else where perhaps.
cut most of the bombing run at the beginning. or cut the dreadnought out completely

Light speed attack can be cut, and replaced with footage of bomber dropping bombs on dreadnought.
the inside shots of the woman in the bomber is pointless and can be cut.

you could even do a re-edit of TFA with training montage with Luke so it looks like she met up with him earlier. Before she becomes a light saber master.

Then again we may get more and better footage from episode 9 to re-edit this entire trilogy.
If we were re-editing both movies I would cut Snoke completely. His death was out of place, he should have sensed things better than the emperor palatine did in episode 6. In the end he had no back story, and we still do not know who he is. He is just a MacGuffin for Ren where one is not needed.

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Also remove multi light year force projections. That is just silly.

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Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

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I really wish Finn was more reluctant to help. He starts off running away from the fleet to save his hide and ends it willing to sacrifice himself for it, but the way he got from here to there could have been more natural, he’s way too quick to go along with Rose’s plan. Rose should have pushed him more. What’s there could be good, but we just don’t have the material to make it really work. This way Finn has more of an actual arc, even if it is a retread of TFA, but it’s better than… nothing.

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Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

Thanks, to further develop this, we can rearrange the sequence a bit more.

Finn: "They scramble the shields, it’s impossible"
Poe: "I think I know someone"
Maybe cut to another scene of Rey or Ren.
Threepio: "General Twin Peaks will never agree to this plan"
Poe: "That’s why it’s a need-to-know plan"
Poe gets up and starts walking here, we cut to the radar blip.
Next scene with Rey or Ren. Then we see Poe talk to Finn and Rose, asking how things are going, maybe we can use some of Finn’s dialogue from the casino but we don’t have to see it. The next time we see Finn and Rose is “We got A codebreaker, not THE codebreaker”. The scene where DJ steals from the ship can serve as a good introduction to his character.

The ship subplot with General Twin Peaks is shown from Poe’s perspective, if we see Finn and Rose from his perspective as well it helps resolve the way we see the General, makes it feel a bit more natural. This is my hope.

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An idea for Finn and his speeder run at the cannon on Crait popped up in my head. What if you have everyone tell him he won’t make it like how it is in the normal film, and then right before Rose sweeps in, we have his dragging stick stabilizing thingy (literally don’t know what it’s called), go out on him, and we use a shot of his speeder crashing from there. I wonder if modifying some of the shots through speed, camera shake, and trimming, along with a retiming of the music, plus some new crashing sfx, COULD MAYBE JUST MAYBE imply that the Cannon stopped Finn’s speeder and that he barely survived. This would show that he never had anyone try to stop him and we still get the epic moment but there’s no Rose involved and it’s kind of a “I told you so” moment from Poe’s previous warnings he gave Finn.

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Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

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Handman said:

Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

Oh, my plan was to cut everything showing Rose after the speeder run is done. It’s implied she is still with the resistance. Ooh, I thought of this idea just now as I’m writing but I really like it.

So here’s what would happen. Speeders are getting picked off left and right like how we see in the normal film. And before the last speeder gets shot, we see a shot of Rose looking afraid or something and then her speeder gets destroyed, cut to instant reaction of Finn, cut right to Poe saying they have to break off, and then cut right back to Finn saying “I won’t let them win” very passionately. So then his speeder run is an emotional response to avenging Rose.

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darthrush said:

Handman said:

Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

Oh, my plan was to cut everything showing Rose after the speeder run is done. It’s implied she is still with the resistance. Ooh, I thought of this idea just now as I’m writing but I really like it.

So here’s what would happen. Speeders are getting picked off left and right like how we see in the normal film. And before the last speeder gets shot, we see a shot of Rose looking afraid or something and then her speeder gets destroyed, cut to instant reaction of Finn, cut right to Poe saying they have to break off, and then cut right back to Finn saying “I won’t let them win” very passionately. So then his speeder run is an emotional response to avenging Rose.

I like it. I’m not sure what the next movie will do with these characters, so I feel we need to show Rose get injured one way or another. This works, and shows the same themes without hitting us over the head with that clunky line from Rose.

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Handman said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

Oh, my plan was to cut everything showing Rose after the speeder run is done. It’s implied she is still with the resistance. Ooh, I thought of this idea just now as I’m writing but I really like it.

So here’s what would happen. Speeders are getting picked off left and right like how we see in the normal film. And before the last speeder gets shot, we see a shot of Rose looking afraid or something and then her speeder gets destroyed, cut to instant reaction of Finn, cut right to Poe saying they have to break off, and then cut right back to Finn saying “I won’t let them win” very passionately. So then his speeder run is an emotional response to avenging Rose.

I like it. I’m not sure what the next movie will do with these characters, so I feel we need to show Rose get injured one way or another. This works, and shows the same themes without hitting us over the head with that clunky line from Rose.

I guess. In all honesty, I’m editing this movie as if it’s the last one of the saga. It feels a lot like one to me so for my version I would also cut everything of her after her speeder explosion to imply she died but if you want her just injured then it’s easy to do that as well.

So my idea would combine two heavily modified moments that would need to play to the audience in just the right way. I’m hoping there’s enough footage to make it work cause I like the idea.

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Interesting, it looks like we’ll be using a lot of the same ideas, but since there’s still another movie to come, I’m willing to keep some things open in regards to continuity for that film. You’re right that this seems like the last of the saga, but I’m still interested to see where it goes.

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darthrush said:

Handman said:

Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

Oh, my plan was to cut everything showing Rose after the speeder run is done. It’s implied she is still with the resistance. Ooh, I thought of this idea just now as I’m writing but I really like it.

So here’s what would happen. Speeders are getting picked off left and right like how we see in the normal film. And before the last speeder gets shot, we see a shot of Rose looking afraid or something and then her speeder gets destroyed, cut to instant reaction of Finn, cut right to Poe saying they have to break off, and then cut right back to Finn saying “I won’t let them win” very passionately. So then his speeder run is an emotional response to avenging Rose.

So you’d kill Finn?

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I suggest that somewhere in one of these edits, one of the characters say “I have a bad feeling about this”

Seriously, did Rian Johnson literally forget to add that in this movie? NOBODY FREAKING SAYS IT.

Later, after the movie was finished, i’ll bet he went “Oh shit! I totally forgot to add that line in this movie! Hmmm. I can’t add it to any of the lines of dialogue already in the movie… I guess I’ll just have to find a character that doesn’t speak english say it. Let’s see… I know! I’ll have BB-8 say it. It’s perfect!”

Come on man. Admit you just fucked up.

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I loved the movie overall, and I think most of its flaws are relatively minor stuff that could be fixed or mitigated with light cuts, but I have VERY mixed feelings about its handling of Luke. The way he died – a display of the Force that was incredibly powerful yet epitomized “knowledge and defense” rather than attack, followed by peacefully disappearing while gazing on a twin sunset – was brilliant and perfect…except for the timing. Luke restoring the Jedi Order was one of the only specific bits of unfinished business the OT gives the main heroes, so to kick that can down the road to Rey’s generation just feels wrong.

So that’s the one thing I’d most like to see addressed by a fan-edit not beholden to official canon – whether by rearranging things in a set of Sequel Trilogy edits, moving Luke’s death to IX, simply cutting Luke’s fadeaway & the “he’s gone, I felt it” lines, removing the glow effect from Episode IX Luke, etc. But I don’t think it’s worth attempting until we know what Episode IX gives us to work with in terms of both Luke material and whether we see more Jedi begin to be trained at any point.

I also think there’s a decent chance of Abrams course-correcting in IX with substantial use of Luke as a Force Ghost (though there’s obviously only so much that can be done now that he’s dead), and there’s some indication he had a somewhat different motive for Luke’s exile in mind – TFA ends with him in full Jedi robes (which, okay, could simply be Rule of Cool), but he has no reason to be wearing them most of the time under Johnson’s characterization, so much so that changing clothes is one of the first things Luke does. Besides, it’s one thing to want to go into hiding, and another thing to specifically do so at the site of the universe’s oldest Jedi Temple. I bet Abrams and Kasdan’s original idea was that Luke sought it out not because he wanted to end the Order, but that he was looking for some sort of long-lost Force knowledge that could give him some new insight into the dark side and turn Ben back…but never found it.

But again, it all depends on what material Episode IX gives fan editors to work with.

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Collipso said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Possible. What do we do about Rose’s injuries? I also like the kiss, I think we can utilize deleted scenes on the Star Destroyer to build up Finn and Rose’s relationship a bit more (supposedly there’s a scene where Finn tries to flatten Rose’s hair, a small character moment but I think it could be nice), but the “It’s not about who you hate, it’s about who you love” line needs to go. Finn asks her why she did that and she just kisses him without saying anything and passes out.

Oh, my plan was to cut everything showing Rose after the speeder run is done. It’s implied she is still with the resistance. Ooh, I thought of this idea just now as I’m writing but I really like it.

So here’s what would happen. Speeders are getting picked off left and right like how we see in the normal film. And before the last speeder gets shot, we see a shot of Rose looking afraid or something and then her speeder gets destroyed, cut to instant reaction of Finn, cut right to Poe saying they have to break off, and then cut right back to Finn saying “I won’t let them win” very passionately. So then his speeder run is an emotional response to avenging Rose.

So you’d kill Finn?

No, read the other change I would do with Finn that I said beforehand. The two edits would work together. I’d kill Rose, Finn would make his run at the cannon, but it would damage his ship badly enough that he loses stability and crashes to the side.

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Here’s one of my ideas:
Recut TFA and either omit the opening crawl or make a new one, the reason why will be clear in a second.
Starfield
Voice over - Yoda - ''Through the Force, things you will see. Other places, the future, the past, old friends long gone."
Fade to Luke stalking young Ben Solo at his academy, when the scenes of the that are finished move Rey’s Force vision from E7 here. At the end of her Force vision cut to the troopers on the landing transport and continue the movie.
Later, when Rey touches a light saber for the first time, we need to use something else now.
I propose shirtless Kylo Ren.
Ha ha, just kidding.
Use a clip from TLJ of her and Kylo Ren fighting the Praetorian Guards, it will give resonance to her resolution that Kylo Ben is redeemable.

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LordStarkiller said:

For me, I hated this movie but I can see myself trying to improve it. The goal of my edit would be to focus the film on Luke, Kylo, and Rey.

  • Cut “Canto Bight” subplot: Was pointless to the film and only served to pad runtime. (To be replaced by deleted scenes of Luke training Rey perhaps?) We pick up with Finn and Rose talking to JD in hyperspace.

  • Move the throne room sequence to after The Resistance lands on Crait.

  • Cut Poe’s “Prank Call” to Hux

  • Make Luke more heroic

  • Minimize “Marvel-Style” humor

That’s for starters.

Nailed it. How about make a new Opening Crawl add one sentence to the Crawl

Poe is in trouble for getting people killed in battle cut the entire opening sequence and start the film off with Rey and Luke

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darthrush said:

Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

You’re right about it being all about the dialogue, and unfortunately the dialogue isn’t there. Poe never says, “I think I know someone”. He just looks up and points at Finn. You may be able to lift some audio from another Oscar Isaac film though.

“You can’t polish a turd. But you can shape it to look like candy.”

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Jackpumpkinhead said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

You’re right about it being all about the dialogue, and unfortunately the dialogue isn’t there. Poe never says, “I think I know someone”. He just looks up and points at Finn. You may be able to lift some audio from another Oscar Isaac film though.

Ha, I knew I wasn’t crazy!

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Jackpumpkinhead said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

You’re right about it being all about the dialogue, and unfortunately the dialogue isn’t there. Poe never says, “I think I know someone”. He just looks up and points at Finn. You may be able to lift some audio from another Oscar Isaac film though.

Perfection little edits and 2 major changes would do

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darthrush said:

Jackpumpkinhead said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

You’re right about it being all about the dialogue, and unfortunately the dialogue isn’t there. Poe never says, “I think I know someone”. He just looks up and points at Finn. You may be able to lift some audio from another Oscar Isaac film though.

Ha, I knew I wasn’t crazy!

Dammit, I knew I was crazy, but this is really disappointing to see the evidence of it.

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Handman said:

darthrush said:

Jackpumpkinhead said:

darthrush said:

Handman said:

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

It’s all about the dialogue. I recall him just lifting his head up and then we cut to maz but if he says “I think I know someone” then you can cut straight from there to the radar blip and then you see them pick up Poe’s call on the ship that they found a code breaker. And then you have the scene of him stealing from the ship after that before they arrive at the supremacy. You could also cut down them sneaking around (iron joke, evil BB-8, jokes).

Good thinking Handman, I think that’s the best way I’ve heard yet to cut down Canto Bight.

You’re right about it being all about the dialogue, and unfortunately the dialogue isn’t there. Poe never says, “I think I know someone”. He just looks up and points at Finn. You may be able to lift some audio from another Oscar Isaac film though.

Ha, I knew I wasn’t crazy!

Dammit, I knew I was crazy, but this is really disappointing to see the evidence of it.

LOL

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  • Restructure the opening fight sequence to eliminate the explosives falling onto the dreadnought. There is no gravity in space.

  • If possible, Leia should die in the bridge explosion.

  • As other have mentioned, cut out Luke milking the thala-siren.

  • Reincorporate any deleted scenes of Luke and Rey interacting.

  • Replace Rey’s vision in the nether region of Ach-To. Incorporate an image of Snoke and audio of Palpatine uttering the name “Plagueis.” This could satisfy fans disappointed in Snoke’s missing backstory. Then transition to Kylo Ren’s attack on the new Jedi Order and Rey’s abandonment on Jakku.

  • Cut Yoda’s insinuation Luke never read the Jedi sacred texts because they were not page turners.

  • Either Poe’s mutiny should not occur or he should face at least some consequences for it.

  • As others have mentioned, streamline the Canto Bight sequence. After the hacker in the prison offers to help, cut to them flying off.

  • If possible, Finn should not attempt a suicide run against the enemy cannon; instead, he should retreat with Poe and the others.

  • Reduce the number of times characters say, “The last Jedi.” Preferably, the phrase should never be spoken.