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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS ** — Page 52

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You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

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Ackbar could lived long enough to help pilot the ship instead of random rebel #42 though.

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pleasehello said:

DrDre said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Nandi said:

TV’s Frink said:

DrDre said:

at which point he suddenly becomes a retard.

Oh fuck off already.

Before I just disagreed with your opinion on a film. Now I think you’re an asshole too.

How do you keep avoiding moderator warnings with all fights you start

Go ask them, but maybe it’s partly because I don’t use “retard” as an insult?

I have to admit, that’s a pretty weak defense.

“Retard” as an insult is offensive, but “asshole” is not. Telling people to “fuck off” is not, as being belligerent is also not.
Umm… okay.

Your objection is noted.

Using “retard” as an insult makes you an asshole. Sorry.

I see. Calling someone dumb is also insulting. If I call Snoke a dumb character would that also be passing those high and mightly standards of yours? How about Snoke is ugly? Is that an insult, which makes me an asshole, or simply the truth?

I think insulting a fictional character is not really on the same level of dickery as insulting real people, but hey that’s me. Anyways, I will avoid the r-word with regards to fictional characters from now on, as it seems to be inflammatory to some.

Frink loves being outraged. Best to just ignore him.

Yeah, I know. I’ve just never been on the recieving end. It’s a refreshing experience.

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pleasehello said:

DrDre said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Nandi said:

TV’s Frink said:

DrDre said:

at which point he suddenly becomes a retard.

Oh fuck off already.

Before I just disagreed with your opinion on a film. Now I think you’re an asshole too.

How do you keep avoiding moderator warnings with all fights you start

Go ask them, but maybe it’s partly because I don’t use “retard” as an insult?

I have to admit, that’s a pretty weak defense.

“Retard” as an insult is offensive, but “asshole” is not. Telling people to “fuck off” is not, as being belligerent is also not.
Umm… okay.

Your objection is noted.

Using “retard” as an insult makes you an asshole. Sorry.

I see. Calling someone dumb is also insulting. If I call Snoke a dumb character would that also be passing those high and mightly standards of yours? How about Snoke is ugly? Is that an insult, which makes me an asshole, or simply the truth?

I think insulting a fictional character is not really on the same level of dickery as insulting real people, but hey that’s me. Anyways, I will avoid the r-word with regards to fictional characters from now on, as it seems to be inflammatory to some.

Frink loves being outraged. Best to just ignore him.

I’m somewhat pissed off myself right now.

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SilverWook said:

Ackbar could lived long enough to help pilot the ship instead of random rebel #42 though.

I think Ackbar dying was a nice “oh shit” moment though.

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Pretty sure the random rebel Holdo was talking over the hologram was a guy. 😉

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DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

Let’s just drop the subject. I said I won’t be using that word anymore.

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pleasehello said:

DrDre said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Nandi said:

TV’s Frink said:

DrDre said:

at which point he suddenly becomes a retard.

Oh fuck off already.

Before I just disagreed with your opinion on a film. Now I think you’re an asshole too.

How do you keep avoiding moderator warnings with all fights you start

Go ask them, but maybe it’s partly because I don’t use “retard” as an insult?

I have to admit, that’s a pretty weak defense.

“Retard” as an insult is offensive, but “asshole” is not. Telling people to “fuck off” is not, as being belligerent is also not.
Umm… okay.

Your objection is noted.

Using “retard” as an insult makes you an asshole. Sorry.

I see. Calling someone dumb is also insulting. If I call Snoke a dumb character would that also be passing those high and mightly standards of yours? How about Snoke is ugly? Is that an insult, which makes me an asshole, or simply the truth?

I think insulting a fictional character is not really on the same level of dickery as insulting real people, but hey that’s me. Anyways, I will avoid the r-word with regards to fictional characters from now on, as it seems to be inflammatory to some.

Frink loves being outraged. Best to just ignore him.

How’s your autistic child doing these days? Mine sends her love.

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SilverWook said:

Pretty sure the random rebel Holdo was talking over the hologram was a guy. 😉

Yeah I edited my post when I realized what you meant…

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

I’ll rephrase: grow the fuck up. If you don’t understand the difference between the r-word and the f-word, that’s your problem. Educate yourself, I’m not going to explain it for you.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

I’ll rephrase: grow the fuck up. If you don’t understand the difference between the r-word and the f-word, that’s your problem. Educate yourself, I’m not going to explain it for you.

Yeah, I think someone is crossing some lines here, and confusing opinion with fact. I won’t dignify this one with an answer…

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

I’ll rephrase: grow the fuck up. If you don’t understand the difference between the r-word and the f-word, that’s your problem. Educate yourself, I’m not going to explain it for you.

Yeah, I think someone is crossing some lines here. I won’t dignify this one with an answer…

Fine man. Sorry I can’t respect someone who doesn’t respect others.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

I’ll rephrase: grow the fuck up. If you don’t understand the difference between the r-word and the f-word, that’s your problem. Educate yourself, I’m not going to explain it for you.

Yeah, I think someone is crossing some lines here. I won’t dignify this one with an answer…

Fine man. Sorry I can’t respect someone who doesn’t respect others.

I never attacked anyone personally. I disrespected a fictional character. Not the same thing, mate.

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This thread is like a tire fire inside of a coal mine in the middle of a cave in.

Let’s get back to discussing the movie in polite manner, please? If I have to re-lock the thread, it’s staying locked for a while.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

You guys need to grow up. Frink isn’t the only who has a problem with that word.

I see the F-word floating around here quite often. In fact I think someone used it just now. I don’t like that one. Shall we compile a list of bad words and agree not to use them, or are we going to continue applying double standards?

I’ll rephrase: grow the fuck up. If you don’t understand the difference between the r-word and the f-word, that’s your problem. Educate yourself, I’m not going to explain it for you.

Yeah, I think someone is crossing some lines here. I won’t dignify this one with an answer…

Fine man. Sorry I can’t respect someone who doesn’t respect others.

I never attacked anyone personally. I disrespected a fictional character. Not the same thing, mate.

Yeah and if I used the n-word to describe a fictional character that’s no problem? You’re missing the point here.

JEDIT: didn’t see your post Wook, sorry. But I don’t take back anything I’ve said.

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No worries. You beat me to the point I wanted to make.

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Let the thread die! Kill it if you have to!

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Serious question: what characters do you find relatable and/or likable and why?

[edit: I wish I could like joefavs’s last post]

The blue elephant in the room.

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I’m out of here.

Using the r-word to describe a fictional character is apparently bad enough for a moderator to weigh in, but directly calling a user an asshole and telling them to fuck off is not?!!! If mr. Frink objected to the use of the word, he could have just said so in a civilized manner. I would have apologized, and that would have been the end of it.

I’ve outstayed my welcome on these boards. Hasta la vista baby.

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I liked Kylo Ren in this. He’s just after a connection with another human being. Like a recapitulated Anakin.

EDIT: Shit biscuits! We lost DrDre; TF.N ain’t gonna appreciate his coloring algorithms.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

One fear I have about the backlash against TLJ is that Lucasfilm might pull a WB/DC move and make overly reactionary decisions to “fix” things for IX and beyond instead of building on what worked. That was the major problem with both Suicide Squad and Justice League - instead of letting them both run their course and tweaking things from there on out, they made massive changes to both of them throughout production to respond to the criticisms of MoS, BvS, and SS (in the case of JL), resulting in the messy tonal whiplash of SS and the Frankenstein’s mosnter that was JL. I don’t want either of those things to happen with IX.

And before anyone claims that’s what happened with TLJ, it isn’t. TLJ was written and in (pre?) production before TFA even came out. If it was reactionary toward TFA, that was due to Johnson’s response to Abrams’ and Kasdan’s choices in VII, not the audience’s.

Considering the glowing critical reception and box office success, I doubt they’ll let a set of particularly loud fanboys change how they work.

Applying that logic, they are OT “fanboys” and you’re a TLJ “fanboy”?

Or maybe we could just leave the name calling out of it. As has been repeatedly stressed by mods in here - argue the point, don’t attack the person simply stating their opinion.

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I don’t know what it is, maybe I’m tired of all the time I spent defending TFA, but I honestly don’t even think I can bother with trying to respond to a lot of these negative reviews. Maybe it’s the volume, maybe I’m just shocked that there’s even such an outcry to begin with. Our takes on the film are just so different that I honestly don’t know how to bridge that gap, besides just hoping these people see the movie again and get out of it what I, and many others, did. It’s really something.

I’ve also been meaning to ask you for a bit about the above post earlier in this thread - why do you feel the need to defend TLJ by replying to every negative review? Is this not a “review and opinions” thread? I’m for civil discourse on varying opinions as much as the next reasonable person but your position seems to be that you feel obligated to actively fend off negative reviews of this movie, sometimes to the extent of really getting in people’s faces and almost aggressively singling them out when they’re just contributing their point of view to the thread.

I usually find your posts to be pretty good around here Dom but in this thread I’ve seen another side of you that isn’t very pretty.

.Val

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Frink has been banned for the “asshole” thing. I’m going to be reviewing the thread myself in the coming days and will probably issue additional bans.

I haven’t seen the movie yet, so thanks guys.

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this threat = <strike>cancer</strike> rapid division of cells in the body, leading to a tumor.

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Regarding characters, I really like Poe, he has been my favorite character in the ST ever since TFA, and I’m glad he got developed even further in this movie.
Kylo Ren also gets a good share of character development, so he’s for sure second favorite.
Finn is not that interesting to me, and poor Rey in my eyes is nothing but a unrealistically overpowered character, which makes her boring.

I’m still not sure what to think about Luke’s arc in this movie though.

Too bad we lost DrDre, he was articulating a lot of what I think of the movie in more coherent ways.

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What have I come back to? Sorry you have to deal with it, Jay. Hope you get to the theater soon.

The blue elephant in the room.