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Post #1144685

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Wexter
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Date created
18-Dec-2017, 6:37 PM

ChainsawAsh said:

Wexter said:

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

The problem is that the first part of this new story strongly hints, that Rey’s parentage actually matters and then suddenly this other guy takes over the story and just goes “yeah, we’re not doing any of that”.

I strongly disagree. JJ’s statements about the force show he had the same reveal in mind. Rey’s parents only matter in terms of it matters to Rey. No one in TFA says her parents are important besides her, in fact if anything they say the opposite.

I’m talking about her Force vision, Anakin’s lightsaber calling to her and Ben Kenobi’s voice speaking to her. They have absolutely no idea what this meant when they set this up and it will probably amount to nothing at all. Maybe some clever writer will deal with that in a comic book or something.

The lightsaber represented Luke, the mission to find him, and the force in general. When she touched it she saw Luke’s history (and heard from his mentors) because it was once his saber. It called to her because the journey to find Luke and learn the force called to her.

At the end of the film, Kylo Ren claims ownership of the saber. Yet who grabs it when it’s stuck in the snow? It ties into the whole idea of the force belonging to everyone and not just the Skywalkers.

Cool. Maybe you could be the clever writer who fills in the gaps. 😃 How about that ship leaving Jakku? What should they do about that?

Two options:

  • Ben wasn’t 100% right - they didn’t trade her for drinking money, they traded her for a ship to get off Jakku.
  • She tried to escape from Unkar Plutt aboard that ship, but he caught her before she made it.

Neither really works, I think. If they traded her for a ship, why would Ben/RJ randomly hide that fact from us? And how would Unkar Plutt fit into this Force vision? This just screams of retcon either way.

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

The problem is that the first part of this new story strongly hints, that Rey’s parentage actually matters and then suddenly this other guy takes over the story and just goes “yeah, we’re not doing any of that”.

I strongly disagree. JJ’s statements about the force show he had the same reveal in mind. Rey’s parents only matter in terms of it matters to Rey. No one in TFA says her parents are important besides her, in fact if anything they say the opposite.

I’m talking about her Force vision, Anakin’s lightsaber calling to her and Ben Kenobi’s voice speaking to her. They have absolutely no idea what this meant when they set this up and it will probably amount to nothing at all. Maybe some clever writer will deal with that in a comic book or something.

The lightsaber represented Luke, the mission to find him, and the force in general. When she touched it she saw Luke’s history (and heard from his mentors) because it was once his saber. It called to her because the journey to find Luke and learn the force called to her.

At the end of the film, Kylo Ren claims ownership of the saber. Yet who grabs it when it’s stuck in the snow? It ties into the whole idea of the force belonging to everyone and not just the Skywalkers.

Cool. Maybe you could be the clever writer who fills in the gaps. 😃 How about that ship leaving Jakku? What should they do about that?

I’m not saying the “force back” as they call it is perfectly done. I think it’s a little messy and lacks a solid flow. But I have no problem with what it represents - the force. The light, and the dark. The ship leaving Jakku is part of the dark side, tapping into Rey’s fears of abandonment and isolation. TLJ makes this connection explicit.

That’s pretty good, but it just sounds like bit of a conjecture. Kinda makes me think that with this amount of creative interpretation you could even twist anything in the prequels to actually make sense.