And if we are using wiki, then this clarifies that Leia was a force ‘USER’ prior to A New Hope, when she apparently saved a girl from falling off a balcony.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leia_Organa_Solo
Shall we continue DrDre?
Oke, a history lesson. Star Wars was a film released in 1977, while it’s sequels were released in 1980 and 1983.
Leia saved that girl in the book “The Last of the Jedi: Master of Deception” released in 2008.
I’m sure you’re understanding where I’m going with this. If a new books comes out that claims Leia has wings, this doesnt in any way imply that Geoge Lucas envisioned Leia with wings when he made the films.
However, as I stated earlier, you’re whole argument against my statement that Snoke forgot to use his mind reading powers for plot convenience, hinged on the flawed idea that the OT was equally contrived, because Vader did not use mind reading powers on Antilles and Leia.
Applying retro-active continuity and your own words, Vader did attempt to use mind reading on Leia, but failed, and used old fashioned torture to get the information from Antilles.
So, my criticism against Snoke still stands, while your counter argument has been debunked.
Shall we continue, Matt F.?
I don’t think in OT that Vader could read minds. But obviously Disney now says that force users CAN read minds.
So I think it’s best to just stick with what we see in the OT movies, and nothing in it says that Vader can “read minds”.
I know there are “canon” comic books that have been coming out that are taking place during the OT. Does any of that have Vader “reading minds”?
If Disney retcons the OT rules, then I guess you’ll have to decide to believe what’s in the OT movies, or believe what Disney has retconned. Though I’m not saying that Disney has “retconned” that Vader can “read minds”.
But at this point, it’s either in the movies, or has been retconned by Disney with the new comic books and books that are out.
I’ve not seen anyone post something from “canon” that has Vader “reading minds”. I don’t know, maybe it’s in a new comic book or book that Disney has put out.
Let’s say if Disney put out a comic book that has Luke “flying around like Superman” during the OT, then you’d have to decide if you believe what you see in the OT movies, or what Disney has retconned.