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Post #1144284

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DrDre
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Date created
18-Dec-2017, 8:29 AM

adywan said:

So Force users can manipulate non-force users to make them say or do what they want , but they can’t read their minds, yet can read the mind pretty easily of a trained force user? yeh, that seems logical and believable 😉

So, why did Vader not read Antilles or Leia’s mind? The Jedi mind trick was already introduced in the first movie. If Vader could extract the location of the rebel base via mind reading he would have, but the film makes abundantly clear that he can’t get the information, even with a mind probe, and they need to resort to extortion (and even that fails). Those are the rules my friend, I didn’t make them.

And, yes Vader DID read luke’s mind in ROTJ. “You’re thoughts betray you. You’re feelings for them are clear, especially…sister…” all this while Luke is trying hard to block Vader from accessing this thoughts. If you think Luke just let all that slip out and projected that direct to Vader, then that really diminishes his character and makes him a very weak individual and a crap jedi. It’s been clear to almost everyone since 1983 that Vader read Luke’s mind. Yet this has only now come up in an poor attempt to say how crap TLJ is.

Luke is trying to bury his feelings as Obi-Wan suggested in order to prevent Vader from finding out, but he let’s the information slip. Luke is not an experienced Jedi yet. He’s also overcome with anger and lashes out at Vader, and only holds back at the last moment. Does this make him a crap Jedi?

The Jedi sensing each other through the Force is like connecting to the internet. The moment you plug in, you’re vulnurable to the other Jedi reading your files, and the only way to prevent that, is to have a proper firewall, which you can only properly maintain, if you have enough experience. If you’re not connected to the internet, your files are safe, but an experienced Jedi can still access your bios, even if they can’t access your file system.