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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
Read the making of revenge of the sith. In it it describes how lucas was in fact considering making anakin the son of palpatine by way of midichlorians. Imagine that, palps is actually Luke skywalkers and leias grandfather. creepy huh?



Not creepy really.....just right on the target considering who's writing this crap.

Only LucASS would come up with that kind of shit.

LucASS needs a woman....then MAYBE he will write something decent.
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reply to Cable-X1:



He was married to one of the greatest editor's in the history of cinema, Marcia Lucas, and yet he still managed to screw it all up. But i can't but feel sorry for him, since he loved her so much. And I think the whole prequels fiasco, special editions, howard the duck etc. Are all because of his life spinning out of control, a downward spiral.























“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Not to defend midichlorians, but maybe those "living things" that create the force (ANH novelization) are midichlorians. Kind of like a spiritual presence, but on a molecular level. If the force is within us, then we can be in touch the force outside of us. Just a theory.
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could be
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
My opinions of said subject...



HotRod
Needs to get laid......just kidding.....



Yeah maybe I do.
But we had a little boy born in December and for 6 bloody months I've not had a decent nights sleep!!

Best thing in the world though!!.....Along with Star Wars

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"But we had a little boy born in December and for 6 bloody months I've not had a decent nights sleep!!"

Ah....the quintessential punishment for getting laid. 10 seconds of pleasure for a lifetime of pain.

"Not to defend midichlorians, but maybe those "living things" that create the force (ANH novelization) are midichlorians. Kind of like a spiritual presence, but on a molecular level. If the force is within us, then we can be in touch the force outside of us. Just a theory."
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George Lucas: "I felt the Kiber Crystal was a way of articulating what was going on, but I decided that I didn't need it. It was better to make the Force more ethereal than to have it solidified in a thing like the crystal." - Annotated Screenplays

Lucas should have stayed with his original gut feeling.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Read this...

i saw this article on the google adds and gave it a read. While reading it i couldnt help thinking about the mediclorians and how the defeat the original purpose of the Force per Jeorge...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/Kingsama/samasig.jpg
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I've discussed this a million gabillion zillion times. This is my opinion, take it the way you want. I'm not going to get in some kind of long, geek filled argument over it:

Remove the Midi-Chlorians. Qui-Gon's senses should be proof enough that Anakin is powerful, we don't need a blood test. I don't mind the Prophecy, but it would have been much better without the Midi-chlorian explanation. This change to the lore also contradicts the view of the Force shown by Obi-Wan in ANH and Yoda in Empire.

We would much rather have Qui-Gon's explanation of the Force be consistent with the explanations given by Obi-Wan in A New Hope and Yoda in Empire, but with his character's own personal touches. Here are their explanations of the Force (which is not unexplainable magic, as most seem to understand it).

Obi-Wan : "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together."

Obi-Wan's explanation seems to imply that the Force is universal. Midi-chlorians do not create the ability to use the Force, but other living things create it. Any being can use the Force with enough training, focus, and patience. Specifically, your ability to use the Force stems from your mind, not from the number of symbiotic organisms within your body.

Yoda: "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."

Notice how Yoda specifically made the contrast between matter and humanity. Yoda says that humans are more than just the sum of their cells. Explaining one's ability to use the Force through the results of a blood test means that the Force does boil down to 'crude matter'. He also repeats Obi-Wan's assertion that all life creates the Force.

The Midi-Chlorian explanation in Episode I specifically refutes the explanations of the Force given in the original two Star Wars films. In the OT, we could say that Yoda is the wisest and most powerful Jedi because of his faith, dedication, focus, patience, intelligence, etc. In the PT, we say that Yoda and Anakin are the two most powerful Jedi because they were born with the highest number of Midi-chlorians in their body. This is almost a Social Darwinist theory of the Force.

Qui-Gon says that without Midi-chlorians, life would not be possible and we would have no knowledge of the Force. Therefore, all living things possess midi-chlorians, and all living things should have access to the Force

The film would have been superior if the midi-chlorians were never mentioned, though. The Force definitely has changed since Obi-Wan described it in Episode IV (Lucas was trying to make a positive change, but hurt the films instead). In Episode IV, Obi-Wan comments: "When I first met your father, I was amazed at how strongly the Force was with him." In Episode I, this comment seems to have changed to "I was amazed at how high his midi-chlorian count was." The descriptions of the from the original trilogy imply that your ability to use the Force is limited only by the strength of your mind and will. Yoda makes it abundantly clear that NO PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS can be placed on the Force, including a Midi-chlorian count. In the PT, this is no longer the case.

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you bring up some good points but they are not nessaraly valid. quigon says that midichorians are in all life forms and it is they that tell us the will of te force. midichorians dont create the force they are jsut used to harness the force. and not anyone can use the force, we are always told the force is strong with this one and stuff like that, does that mean that thy can use it more then others, why can the use it more then others, because of their midichlorians. thats just my take on it.

I DO agree with u thou midichlorians do kinda take the mystery out of it, but they do still make sense in a round about way.
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I think I've already said this in another thread, but when Anakin loses his arm, and later his other arm and both legs, therefore losing many many cells and presumably many midiclhorians, does that mean his force abilities are diminished?

War does not make one great.

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But if you drink half a pint, it won't affect you as much as a full pint (unless you're a lightweight).

War does not make one great.