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Can the Ewoks be cut out?

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I mean, can you rebuild the ROTJ story with minimal Ewok involvement?
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I think we have enough footage that we could use to switch the Ewoks and the Gungans.
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The gunguns can easily be cut down in EPI (as has been done) and make them better background characters that dont embarrass themselves.

Can the same be said about the Ewoks without making the film see 'disjointed'? I'm watching ROTJ now, but haven't got to them yet.
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It would be nice, but aren't the ewoks too integral to the story to be cut out?
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Short of completely editing out Endor, the only way I can think of making removing all Ewoks work, would be if you replace them with shots of Johnny Rambo in the forest from First Blood. Think about it - he's doing the whole primitive versus technology thing, and he's laying all those traps to catch unwary pursuers/stromtroopers/scout walkers....
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You could cut out some of the slapstick humor out of the endor battle. But removing every scene that contains ewoks would really do more harm than good, imho.
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Remove every Ewok scene? Why? It's not THAT bad. I would only remove the AT-ST being smashed scene, because it's ridiculous, other than that...
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I didn't say completely gone. I may have misworded the title. I know they have to stay, but cut out most of it, like most of the village stuff.
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And perhaps- just perhaps- we don't have the entire Ewok picture.

Though I agree that with a few minutes notice it would have been nigh impossible for the Ewoks to have cut down and then raised those trees into a position *just* to smash the AT-St there may be other possibilities- after all, we will gladly go on and on about the lives and cultures of character and races in SW we *like* but I can't remember seeing any discussion on the Ewok culture (short of the Ewok movies which though I maybe watched when they came out I can't say I remember).

So- the Ewoks live in those elaborate tree-houses right? Somehow they manage to get all the materials up to the levels of their dwellings. Do they climb up the trees carrying lumber on their backs? I doubt it. So logically one can assume that they have worked out a primative engineering system allowing them to raise materials to the level needed to build. The simplest way to achieve this would be a counter-weight system- cut down a medium-sized tree, attach ropes to it, loop the ropes over high branches and then collectively hoist. The Ewoks were advanced enough to have hang-gliders, etc so they have some basic engineering thought.

Anyhow, whatever the exact un-seen construction methods were, let's say that they develop their 'neighborhoods' at the same time like much construction in our world. They very well could have been in the middle of constructing an Ewok sub-division when the Imperials showed up. So construction stops for a bit but they heavy equipment wouldn't have been removed- just secured somehow.

Then imagine the creative little teddy bears thought "Hey! If we were to trick some of these bad guys into following us into our construction zone, we could use our primitive equipment to our advantage and they'd never know what hit them!"

The rest, as they say, is history.



Dear God- did I just *defend* the Ewoks. I MUST be getting old!
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"The gunguns can easily be cut down in EPI (as has been done) and make them better background characters that dont embarrass themselves."

Agreed. That being said, it would interesting to see how the village scenes could be cut to make them a different kind of race. I can only imagine the subtitles MagFan would use.

I mean, the ewoks were going to eat them. Can one realistically turn the ewoks into ferocious predators?

For example, when Leia first meets the ewok, and comes at her growling and poking a stick. Jump to him sensing the stormtroopers and attacking them, then fade to black. When end up wondering what happened to Leia. Is she dead? Did he come back and kill her?

It would make for an interesting segment.

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VERY nice idea MBJ!!!

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Originally posted by: Rikter
VERY nice idea MBJ!!!


Indeed!


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VERY nice idea MBJ!!!


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VERY nice idea MBJ!!!


Indeed!


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Your blood shall flow, human! I will gain your strength and wisdom as I eat your heart and brain- as I have done with my enemies before you!


HaHHaaHaHaHaHAAAhhhaaaHhahahahahahaaaa!!!!!


i might pay money to see a version of RotJ that has all the ewoks subtitled like that!!!
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How about when the ewok is shot down, and the second one comes back to cry over him. Instead of him crying like a baby, we could dub in Qui-gon's "NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo" and subtitle something like..."My name is Chief Chirpa, you killed my father, prepare to die."

Let's see how many good lines we can come up with, and maybe I'll slap something together in my free time.

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These aren't actual scenes, but they'd be fun all the same...


Paploo runs up to a Stormtrooper with a fully-armed Wicket beside him...

"Say 'ello to my leeettle friend!"


Wicket walks up to a whimpering Stormtrooper...

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Ewok slapstick must be takin out.
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The Ewoks, no matter how they are subtitled are utterly impossible to take seriously. The only hope is to edit their screen time down, and turn all of their 'attacks' into a quick cut montage, as if it was all happening at once. By doing this, it lives it ambigous as to who was setting up the traps and who was pulling them.
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Allow me to be a little bit off topic: Isn't it ironic that we, as fans, allow ourselves to consider things such as removing the Ewoks from the films, and yet we protest at GL adding Jabba and Greedo shooting first? Of course, we would preserve the films as they were originally, with Ewok slapstick and trees smashing AT-STs, but if we go on with it, we cannot complain at anything GL does to SW...
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Allow me to be a little bit off topic: Isn't it ironic that we, as fans, allow ourselves to consider things such as removing the Ewoks from the films, and yet we protest at GL adding Jabba and Greedo shooting first? Of course, we would preserve the films as they were originally, with Ewok slapstick and trees smashing AT-STs, but if we go on with it, we cannot complain at anything GL does to SW...


No, because I have had no problem with George Lucas tinkering with the films. My bone of contention is that the original versions have not been released. Personally, I like alot of the SE version of ESB. But I also want to be able to have the OOT version. Much like the EE versions of the LOTR films are great for fans to see as much as possible, they still released the Theatrical versions, the ones that won awards and fans shelled out the dough to see in theaters.
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I think a music change would definitely be in order (sorry, John Williams) to something less "cute", and integrate something more mysterious and/or threatening from one of the other films. I think you could acheive a lot with the Ewoks' scenes using just this and a few well-placed cuts and subtitles.

i.e. - cutting out all the slapstick bits, including the stupid "3PO Storytime" scene, with female Ewoks clutching cuddly little babies and so forth. That scene always makes me feel like I'm in Kindergarten again, (which, of course, I was in 1983).

But, not in a good way.