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yhwx
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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21-Nov-2017, 2:30 PM

MaximRecoil said:

adywan said:

You keep going back to wikipedia to say we’re all wrong about how Mary Sue is a derogatory term used towards female characters, yet you seem to have ignored this one paragrpah in that same wiki entry

Wikipedia isn’t the source. I’ve only posted two excerpts from Wikipedia, both of which are sourced from other places, primarily this site:

http://fmwriters.com/Visionback/Issue30/marysue.htm

“Christine Scodari, a researcher in media studies from gender perspective, noticed a tendency within slash fandom to label major female characters (e.g. Nyota Uhura in the Star Trek 2009 film reboot) as “Mary Sues” because the slash fans “begrudged” how the development of the female character takes away screen time from slashable male characters.[16]”

If you excerpted Wikipedia, then that is the source. Wikipedia editors can interpolate the primary sources however they feel fit, since all writing is open to interpretation.

Only correct application of the term is relevant. Every word/term in the English language has been misapplied by someone, somewhere, countless times.

Do you believe the use of the word “decimated” to destroy a large part of something rather than to kill one out of every ten people to be a misapplication?

Like i said before, just because a word or term originated with a certain meaning does not mean that , after time, it can’t become something that becomes commonly used as a derogatory term towards a race or sex. It is more widely used as in derogatory form towards female characters that it is used in its original meaning. You only have to go on certain forums and sites to see just how many use it because they hate the “female agenda” in Hollywood as they see it. The comments section on youtube alone since TFA came out was littered with the comments using “Mary Sue” in a derogatory fashion.

The reasons given for Rey being a Mary Sue have nothing to do with her sex. And whether or not a “female agenda” resulted in the creation of a Mary Sue is a completely different argument. Rey is a Mary Sue regardless of what led to her creation. If your theory were true, people would commonly be calling all female leads in major works of fiction “Mary Sues”, yet that hasn’t happened.

It has, in some parts of the Internet.

Additionally, there wouldn’t be any male Mary Sues, but in reality, the most famous one until Rey came along was Wesley Crusher.

Gosh, you really go on about Wesley Crusher a lot.