MTHaslett- I love your solution and I’ll use it. I agreed with everything you just said. Thanks for clarifying and including that portion of revised script; I’d have had trouble following it otherwise. I totally agree that when edited in this fashion, one scene leads directly to the other. You made my job easy for this scene in the commentary; I'll just flip to this forum page and read your notes into the microphone!
It's a technique of letting the dialogue from the next scene play over the tail of the preceding scene -- to bring out the subtext.
And I love it.
Something interesting about RotS is that it freed me up a bit in how I’m editing this. Before, I felt almost confined to the cut-and-dry plot-driven style of the other movies. But with RotS- he broke all the rules and standards he had created! So I feel comfortable doing some things that I wouldn’t have considered before.
I hate to admit it (and I know I shouldn’t), but I’m fiddling with Episode III already. I did a test to change
Yoda’s: A prophesy that misread, could have been. That’s the ultimate in the awkward Yoda dialogue that’s so prevalent in the PT. I’ve changed it to: A prophesy that could have been misread, and it works much better. I also changed: I hope right, you are into: I hope you are right.
However, I’ll continue to work on Ep. II until its completion.
Twister:I was wondering what software do you recommend for audio and, video?
Jeten: What are you editing audio on?
If you have the money, go with Vegas or Adobe. Nero's kind of crummy for editing, Roxio's OK...I'm not particularly an expert on this particular topic.
But audio? Get:
1. Cakewalk Pyro
2. SoundForge
3. Sonar
They are such professional tools and make something as difficult as redubbing a SW movie easier than ever would have been possible.
I forgot, which scenes between Anakin and, Padme romance scenes are staying in?
-Anakin/Padme talk on the way out of ship.
-Small part of bedroom scene, runs immediately into...
-Dinner scene. Re-edited a bit to remove corny dialogue.
- Grassy picnic scene has been completely reworked. Starts with short montage of mountains while full-blown love theme plays (a la beginning of "Sound of Music". Fade to them rolling around on grass. Then, hard cut to heavily edited picnic scene. Boyfriend chat is removed. Scene ends with Anakin saying, "Well...if it works..." Clockwipe so as to reveal his smile at the last minute, similar to many of the Palpatine scenes.
-Heavily, radically edited version of the "first kiss" scene. First of all, it's now a moonlit scene; not daytime. Anakin confesses his love for Padme. Padme wants him, but her reaction is shown in...
-Clip of fireplace scene. Anakin's "Shakespeare" speech is cut out.
Are you going to put Dolby Digital 5.1 in???
And I love it.
Something interesting about RotS is that it freed me up a bit in how I’m editing this. Before, I felt almost confined to the cut-and-dry plot-driven style of the other movies. But with RotS- he broke all the rules and standards he had created! So I feel comfortable doing some things that I wouldn’t have considered before.
I hate to admit it (and I know I shouldn’t), but I’m fiddling with Episode III already. I did a test to change
Yoda’s: A prophesy that misread, could have been. That’s the ultimate in the awkward Yoda dialogue that’s so prevalent in the PT. I’ve changed it to: A prophesy that could have been misread, and it works much better. I also changed: I hope right, you are into: I hope you are right.
However, I’ll continue to work on Ep. II until its completion.
Twister:I was wondering what software do you recommend for audio and, video?
Jeten: What are you editing audio on?
If you have the money, go with Vegas or Adobe. Nero's kind of crummy for editing, Roxio's OK...I'm not particularly an expert on this particular topic.
But audio? Get:
1. Cakewalk Pyro
2. SoundForge
3. Sonar
They are such professional tools and make something as difficult as redubbing a SW movie easier than ever would have been possible.
I forgot, which scenes between Anakin and, Padme romance scenes are staying in?
-Anakin/Padme talk on the way out of ship.
-Small part of bedroom scene, runs immediately into...
-Dinner scene. Re-edited a bit to remove corny dialogue.
- Grassy picnic scene has been completely reworked. Starts with short montage of mountains while full-blown love theme plays (a la beginning of "Sound of Music". Fade to them rolling around on grass. Then, hard cut to heavily edited picnic scene. Boyfriend chat is removed. Scene ends with Anakin saying, "Well...if it works..." Clockwipe so as to reveal his smile at the last minute, similar to many of the Palpatine scenes.
-Heavily, radically edited version of the "first kiss" scene. First of all, it's now a moonlit scene; not daytime. Anakin confesses his love for Padme. Padme wants him, but her reaction is shown in...
-Clip of fireplace scene. Anakin's "Shakespeare" speech is cut out.
Are you going to put Dolby Digital 5.1 in???
Unfortunately not. Why? The very nature of the dubbing work I'm doing requires many times that I only use the rear channels, or only use the front channels: very rarely could I use the whole 5.1 package on the DVD. And with all the stereo-only sources I'm using (and my lack of experience with surround sound), I just won't be able to do it.
However, when dubbing, I will preserve all of the original recordings of myself, ChainsawAsh, etc. so that in the far future, if someone with a lot of free time wants to create a 5.1 mix for this, they'll be able to. I can mail them the raw recordings.
More likely than not, however, this stereo could turn out to be Pro-Logic encoded because I'm using a filtered version of the VHS pan-scan audio for the base. This could result in 4 channels if you have the decoder.
But I don't mind the absence of surround too much. I've always watched the OT in stereo and loved it. I know old director Robert Wise (director of Star Trek I) hated 5.1 but liked stereo. So just stereo will probably not be too bad considering the goal of the project, which is to improve it and to age it.
Thanks, guys! I really wish I could say more. The weekend's coming!
Trooperman