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Post #1131149

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DrDre
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kk650's Regraded Raiders of the Lost Ark (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray) (Released)
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Date created
16-Nov-2017, 10:46 AM

kk650 said:

RayRogers said:
To me, the DrDre version more closely recreates the cinematic feeling and the kk650 is more adjusted including the extremely unneeded DNR. I really hate DNR and heavily prefer film grain all the time.

No DNR was added to my release. The main source of my regrade was the 4k remastered blu-ray of Raiders of the Lost Ark, the highest quality official release out there. The WOWOW hd transport stream doesn’t really compare IMHO, the 4k release looks like film while the WOWOW release looks very artificial/digital. The situation is very similar to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Mondo 4k remastered release that looks far more filmic and beautiful to me compared to the very digital looking Mondo release.

I don’t agree, that this is actually the case. The WOWOW suffers from more digital artifacts due to the compression of the HDTV stream, but is actually based on a 4K master created by the same company who did Temple of Doom and Last Crusade, all of which were done in 2011 for the 30th anniversary of ROTLA. The main difference between those two masters (aside from color, and some digital changes) is, that the official bluray release has much heavier DNR, compared to the WOWOW. A frame by frame comparison shows very clearly that a lot of detail has been scrubbed away.

I once matched both the bluray and the WOWOW to the 2003 DVD, and the difference is quite obvious:

WOWOW:

Bluray:

DVD:

WOWOW matched to DVD:

Bluray matched to DVD:

You just have to look at Indy’s clothes, the water, and the smoke to see, that a lot of detail is missing, and heavy DNR was applied to the bluray. Even the DVD has more detail in the water, and there are many shots that are worse. Now, obviously some will prefer the heavy DNR, or are bothered by the compression artifacts in the WOWOW, but I do not agree that it is more film like, as the 35mm scan in many instances actually has more detail than either the WOWOW or the bluray, since even the WOWOW has loss of detail due to DNR.