It's always startling to me how we can be told that the Sith lie and manipulate and turn friends against friends and cause confusion between good and evil. . . and we know that Palpatine is the Sith Lord. . . and yet people who have this odd attachment to Vader and or The Empire repeat Palpatine's propoganda talking points as though they are objective truths.

Seriously people. . . there are good guys and bad guys in this story. It's a very simple Good Vs Evil scenario. Stop trying to look more deeply into it than even Lucas intends. He never intended his audience to believe that the Jedi were evil. . . he only wanted you to understand how Anakin could be fooled into believing it. Palpatine obiously spouts twisted propoganda at Anakin in order to fool him. How odd is it that some people, even knowing this, buy into it as well, just as Anakin does.

You guys are aware that Vader is a villain, right?