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Post #112352

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JediSage
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To Folks in the European Union
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6-Jun-2005, 4:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
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You've not heard of people in Canada having to go to the US because they've been caught up in the beauracracy? I've heard it takes 6 months on average to get an MRI in Canada.


yes, things like this are a problem. but MRIs are used in special circumstances, one of the problems of canadian health care at the moment is that since it is free, you get alot more people to the limited number of MRI machines. so its first come first serve, in the US since there are so many healthcare clinics you do not have as high a demand because of the price of getting an MRI. so in the US the service goes to those with money or insurance, in canada is goes to those that need it in the order they ask. the same is the case with transplants and so on, it is an inherited problem with public health care. hopefully the government of canada will losin the grip it has on private healthcare, if it does this you'll get more people using the private services cuase those with money will not want to wait, but then you you'll get doctors opening up there own clinics everywhere, so there needs to bea careful balance. its complicated.


ok so i understand what your saying, your talkign about unions, personally i greatly dislike unions because PEOPLE are greedy. but still jedi even with your arguement the fault doesnt go to the workers over seas nor to the corperations, it goes to the greedy people that believe they should get more money then there jobs worth. it goes to the unions. it is often said the we will wieve they threads of our own undoing, the people that work in unions and abuse the system fall under that. In BC our province has suffered greatly at the hands of unions. can you beleive this, there is a shortage of nurses right now in the province, and so you get the nurses unions taking advangate of that, under the last provincal government we had, the union went on strike numerious times. and now there are nurses who can get paid up to $40 an hour. that means if this nurse works full time they are getting 83 000 a year. that would put them in the highest tax bracket for what a job that takes 2 years of university education. its a discrace. fortunately the new provincal government has gotten things back in hand.



Well, an MRI, at least in the US, is not really considered a specialty test. It's fairly common. I had one this past December, and had multiples back in 1990-91. It's scary that it takes that long in Canada. Part of the problem with socialized medicine is that people take advantage of it too much. There's a town in Florida (unfortunately I can't remember which one) that has "free" healthcare. Many of the senior citizens actually make day trips just to see the doctor, which results in people who really need to see the doc having to wait. Not good. Some of the politicians here claim that because 40 million people (out of almost 300 million) are "underinsured" in the US that we need universal healthcare, which would be disasterous. They need to protect the docs from malpractice, do something about the burden that illegal aliens are putting on the system, and lower their operational costs. That's what needs to be done, while taking care of the people who don't have insurance. Nobody in the US or Canada or anywhere else should be denied healthcare or medicines.

No, I don't blame the people in the other countries for their plight. However, I don't think another country's economy should suffer because of it either. We can't help the third world by creating more third world countries. God...I am depressed. The world is so messed up, you know?