Instead of arguing and baiting each other about whether or not this thread is pointless, can we talk about the actual discussion, or rather the underlying cause of confrontation? Ender and I have both tried this. Neither post has been acknowledged yet.

I don’t see the point in arguing about whether we should argue about it here or there, or in a box or with a fox, or in a boat or with a goat.

Warbler created this thread. He wants to talk about it. But he doesn’t want to quote the whole of the relevant conversation in the Politics thread, and if he were to summarize it it would be with his spin. So he left it to us to find the source instead. Whether that’s the appropriate action or not is not the issue. It’s what he did. Stop derailing the thread about it. If you don’t want to read the source, then don’t. But don’t bait the OP over it.