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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released) — Page 9

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SilverWook said:

RayRogers said:

ger-el said:

My concern is the 2.40:1 is the aspect ratio of the already released cut that is on there and the full frame is the previously unreleased extended cut. Why else include the words Full Frame?

It’s 2.40:1 as stated on blu-ray.com forum. Damn, do the research and scroll up to JayArgonauts post for the complete information. OAR and in DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 to boot.

Try being a little nicer when you post.

20% or 40% or 60% or 80%?

ger-el said:

I did see JayArgonauts post, and I looked at the link. I appreciate him posting it. The issue is the link he posted has some slight differences from the link for the preorder, namely his link lists 16x9 letterbox, while the order page lists 16x9 FULL FRAME. It’s an odd choice to list is as full frame, and considering the International Cut was only ever shown on TV in fullframe as opposed to widescreen or letterbox leads to the question. I have done the research and checked it out. Not sure where the anger is coming from considering I haven’t asked anything out of lack of research. The same question has been brought up on other boards, where some people have actually reached out to WB for clarification.

As an aside, I have loved being a part of this community for quite some time. This is the first time I have ever had such a response. Oh well, have a great day! I hope it is in widescreen.

It’s the same with Amazon and other sites which don’t have completed disc specifications. Cull all information from what you can gather and then get the stuff for thing for the complete details.
Personally, I learned about this release with the Latest News section on the front page of Blu-ray.com

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RayRogers said:

SilverWook said:

RayRogers said:

ger-el said:

My concern is the 2.40:1 is the aspect ratio of the already released cut that is on there and the full frame is the previously unreleased extended cut. Why else include the words Full Frame?

It’s 2.40:1 as stated on blu-ray.com forum. Damn, do the research and scroll up to JayArgonauts post for the complete information. OAR and in DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 to boot.

Try being a little nicer when you post.

20% or 40% or 60% or 80%?

ger-el said:

I did see JayArgonauts post, and I looked at the link. I appreciate him posting it. The issue is the link he posted has some slight differences from the link for the preorder, namely his link lists 16x9 letterbox, while the order page lists 16x9 FULL FRAME. It’s an odd choice to list is as full frame, and considering the International Cut was only ever shown on TV in fullframe as opposed to widescreen or letterbox leads to the question. I have done the research and checked it out. Not sure where the anger is coming from considering I haven’t asked anything out of lack of research. The same question has been brought up on other boards, where some people have actually reached out to WB for clarification.

As an aside, I have loved being a part of this community for quite some time. This is the first time I have ever had such a response. Oh well, have a great day! I hope it is in widescreen.

It’s the same with Amazon and other sites which don’t have completed disc specifications. Cull all information from what you can gather and then get the stuff for thing for the complete details.
Personally, I learned about this release with the Latest News section on the front page of Blu-ray.com

Try 100% and check the attitude at the door.

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OK, folks,

Hopefully starting this week we can trash all those DVD-Rs and VHS 115th-generation dubs of the TV cut of STM. Tomorrow (if all goes well) WB–and hopefully other outlets like Amazon, etc.–will ship out the STM extended blu ray.

Just to clarify after reading and researching other posts…look forward to a widescreen (not full frame) and 2.0 stereo release.

Now, I suggest for those who may be wanting to have other extended versions of the SUPERMAN movies, to please savor this release first. WB only has so much money in their bank to restore their evergreen films (look at what they’ve done to THE SEA WOLF, also an upcoming WB Archive release), and it takes time and a lot of effort.

Once we get our discs, that will be where the argument and excitement will end. So treasure the best, treasure what we got. And enjoy it.

“Hear you nothing that I say?”
-Yoda

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I see capedwonder.com also confirmed the widescreen release. Great news! Jim Bowers at caped wonder made the point to push people to order sooner rather than later as interest in this release could be what WB uses to determine if the sequels will get the same treatment. Here’s hoping there’s a great response form the fans.

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That reviewer seems totally unaware of all the fan preservation work that led to this coming out at all. Bootleg videotapes indeed!
Call me weird, but I want someone to remaster the pan and scan version with this. The fan restoration is still an impressive achievement and it definitely moved the WB corporate colossus to officially release the extended.

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The new Warner Archive Podcast on STM extended has just been released. There are many ways to get this, all it takes is doing a search of this.

“Hear you nothing that I say?”
-Yoda

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SilverWook said:

That reviewer seems totally unaware of all the fan preservation work that led to this coming out at all. Bootleg videotapes indeed!
Call me weird, but I want someone to remaster the pan and scan version with this. The fan restoration is still an impressive achievement and it definitely moved the WB corporate colossus to officially release the extended.

The reviewer is oblivious. I don’t want the Pan and Scan preserved from the Extended Blu-ray disc.

hiphats said:

The new Warner Archive Podcast on STM extended has just been released. There are many ways to get this, all it takes is doing a search of this.

Hopefully it’s not on iTunes.

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Superman-The Movie: Extended Cut The Music Mystery

“The audio people for “Superman-The Movie: Extended Cut” partially restored what was originally intended for the film, without doing it completely or competently, creating an all-new music edit for the opening titles of the film, one which was never intended by the composer or the filmmakers.”

http://www.capedwonder.com/STMEC/CW-Superman-Extended-Cut-music-article.pdf

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puzosep said:

Superman-The Movie: Extended Cut The Music Mystery

“The audio people for “Superman-The Movie: Extended Cut” partially restored what was originally intended for the film, without doing it completely or competently, creating an all-new music edit for the opening titles of the film, one which was never intended by the composer or the filmmakers.”

http://www.capedwonder.com/STMEC/CW-Superman-Extended-Cut-music-article.pdf

I don’t have this set, but people do seem disappointed in the lack of “wooshing” sound effects when the titles fly in during the intro credits. Apparently they also left out some shots of an ambulance accidentally.

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SilverWook said:

That reviewer seems totally unaware of all the fan preservation work that led to this coming out at all.

After many incidents, I have concluded that the average journalist (whatever their field), doesn’t know that much and will undertake the bare minimum of research that is necessary to get by.

“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”

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So WB partially mucked this up? Glad I didn’t toss my fan restoration copy yet!

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@hiphats
@ger-el

May I ask you to look at your PMs from me, please?

Please forgive this necessary post.

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Adamwestfan said:

So is this still happening?

Superman the Movie TV version is out on bluray.
Superman 2 HD recreation of the 4:3 TV version is on Myspleen.

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Ok, folks. Here is where we stand with all this…

STM is enjoying a revival in theatres this year. All three cuts have been shown in revival movie houses nationwide. This makes up for Fathom Events passing STM over for other films this year, such as “Grease” (probably on the merit of that film outgrossing STM as 1978’s top grossing film).

There are many possibilities for a proper 40th Anniversary Box Set of STM containing all three cuts of the film plus potential new supplements never before released on home video. So…

Criterion and Shout Select now have deals with WB, thus the floor is open.

  1. Criterion has until Sept. 15 to announce this title in time for the 40th Anniversary.
  2. Shout Select could announce this title at the upcoming Comic Con next month in San Diego.
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  3. WB could do this in-house in the manner of their 70th Anniversary Box Set of “Wizard of Oz”, but such an announcement would have to be made by the end of September.

If none of this happens, then it would have to be up to the fans to create their own “Disc 4” to supplement the three cuts that have been put on numerous DVD/Blu ray incarnations.

Keep in mind Alex Serpa has attempted a complete stereo remix of the TV cut as well as putting together a compilation documentary on the making of the film (that special is still up on YouTube). And Oliver Harper also did a commentary track on the 2000 cut (that too is on YouTube).

So fans, make your plans and tell all of us what you would do for a “ Disc 4 “. Here is a hint—much of what you would put in is on YouTube too.

“Hear you nothing that I say?”
-Yoda

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Why would we want a re-release of blu-rays most of us will already have? Buying 3 cuts of the movie again to get some new features would be a let down for me. For the 40th anniversary I would want something really special, which at this point would have to be Superman 2 related. since the last grail release for Superman the movie already came out this year.

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Booshman said:

Why would we want a re-release of blu-rays most of us will already have? Buying 3 cuts of the movie again to get some new features would be a let down for me. For the 40th anniversary I would want something really special, which at this point would have to be Superman 2 related. since the last grail release for Superman the movie already came out this year.

Complete 4K remaster would be nice.

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Well we’re getting the theatrical cut of the first movie in 4k. Also Supergirl is out on bluray today. All nice additions, but I still want the extended cuts of 2-4 in at least 1080P.

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Booshman said:

Well we’re getting the theatrical cut of the first movie in 4k. Also Supergirl is out on bluray today. All nice additions, but I still want the extended cuts of 2-4 in at least 1080P.

Agreed.

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WANTED: SERPA STEREO MIX OF THE TV CUT

If anyone, especially Alex Serpa, has at least an mp3 file of the complete stereo mix Serpa himself prepared for the extended TV cut (for the fan made project that eventually gave way for the Warner Archive blu ray), PM me.

There are still some excerpts of Serpa’s stereo remix work up on YouTube, such as here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nTOsK8dcu0

“Hear you nothing that I say?”
-Yoda

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hiphats said:

WANTED: SERPA STEREO MIX OF THE TV CUT

If anyone, especially Alex Serpa, has at least an mp3 file of the complete stereo mix Serpa himself prepared for the extended TV cut (for the fan made project that eventually gave way for the Warner Archive blu ray), PM me.

There are still some excerpts of Serpa’s stereo remix work up on YouTube, such as here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nTOsK8dcu0

I believe the only person who has that, if it was completed, is Alex. I last spoke to him about it in 2015, and it was still in the works. After the 2 disc set was released by Capedwonder about 18 months ago, I reached out to him again to see if it was finished, but I didn’t hear back.

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UPDATE:

By now you know that there will be no Criterion Collection edition of STM. But, for at least a limited time, the CapedWonder site at capedwonder.com may have given us a clue as to what we could expect out of a 4K edition ( we can now assume this is an in house WB release). This ad is being touted as the “35MM Silver Screen Edition”, and it looks to be a crisp, colorful print at that. The announcer here sure resembles the original one from 1978.

If this is a personal project a la the “Star Wars 35mm Silver Screen Edition”, then whoever is behind this one sure did an excellent job with what he/she had to work with.

Remember, last year the CapedWonder site offered us the TV cut in pan and scan, and that was a clue on the eventual WB Archive Blu Ray issue of the cut in widescreen.

Your thoughts, fans…

“Hear you nothing that I say?”
-Yoda

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I wish someone had a 35mm print of Batman ‘89 and Batman Returns to share. The Reeve Superman films have been treated mostly well with their Blu-ray transfers. Hoping next year we get new 4K transfers of the Batman films.