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There’s trolling and there’s dripping with sarcasm.

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Where were you in '77?

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I wouldn’t say mala is a troll. Alderaan and impscum seem to be though, even though impscum used to not be that way.

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Possessed said:

I wouldn’t say mala is a troll.

I’d say his trollishness waxes and wanes. Right now it’s waned.

Alderaan and impscum seem to be though, even though impscum used to not be that way.

Imp’scum was a self-important prick from Day 1. It just took time for his attitude to become overt.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

I wouldn’t say mala is a troll.

I’d say his trollishness waxes and wanes. Right now it’s waned.

Alderaan and impscum seem to be though, even though impscum used to not be that way.

Imp’scum was a self-important prick from Day 1. It just took time for his attitude to become overt.

Knock it off.

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yhwx said:

imperialscum said:

Cedric T Sealion said:

I think you need to invest in a dictionary.

I am the dictionary.

And the Senate?

ha lol!

Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? none holds them up except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. – Quran (16:79)

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Because I didn’t feel like starting a new thread just to bring this up:

Did anyone see the Spielberg documentary that aired on HBO the other night?

The original ‘77 crawl makes its appearance for a few seconds as Steven tells his version of the now well-known story about De Palma suggesting an opening crawl to Lucas.

I don’t have a dvr and my attempts to screenshot it on the hbo go app with my phone just get me an image of solid black for some reason.

But I bring all of this up because it at least appears to be from a better quality source than the GOUT. Perhaps it was taken from the fresh (presumably hd) scan that was done back in ‘06 before it was downscaled all the way to 4:3 letterbox.

Has the original crawl popped up anywhere else over the last eleven years in comparable quality?

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Is it the same as the scan from Empire of Dreams?

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I don’t doubt that all unaltered footage has been preserved digitally, even if it hasn’t been reassembled. I bet every single frame of film shot for all of the movies has been scanned and filed in the Lucasfilm archive.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Is it the same as the scan from Empire of Dreams?

It doesn’t look upscaled. To my eyes, it looks like a native hd transfer.

What source did the earlier versions of Despecialized use (or the current version for that matter)? I’m thinking specifically of the one that was used for the Kitbashed documentary on vimeo.

What source did EoD use back in ‘04 anyway?

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Was the Empire of Dreams scan an upscale? I genuinely don’t remember.

I think the most recent Harmy used a print scan. Maybe Silver Screen?

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ChainsawAsh said:

Was the Empire of Dreams scan an upscale? I genuinely don’t remember.

What I meant was that the crawl in the Spielberg doc didn’t look like it had merely been upscaled from the clip in EoD. It looked like it came from a much higher quality source. Sorry if I worded it confusingly.

Do we even know what source was used for EoD? There had never been a home video release that included the unaltered crawl when EoD was put together in ‘04.

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Fang Zei said:

I don’t have a dvr and my attempts to screenshot it on the hbo go app with my phone just get me an image of solid black for some reason.

The solid black is a piracy prevention tactic used by most streaming services now to prevent screen recording of purchased or rented materials. Sometimes you can still get audio, but the video is blacked out.

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one69chev said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t have a dvr and my attempts to screenshot it on the hbo go app with my phone just get me an image of solid black for some reason.

The solid black is a piracy prevention tactic used by most streaming services now to prevent screen recording of purchased or rented materials. Sometimes you can still get audio, but the video is blacked out.

I managed to screenshot it on the comcast app, but this is on my phone, which is only 1334 by 750 pixels. So I’m not sure how much good this would do for a comparison with the GOUT and the SSE. Maybe I should take this to the preservation forum.

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I can get - and share - a capture of this Spielberg doc.
Could you tell me at what moment the crawl does appear?

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ZigZig said:

I can get - and share - a capture of this Spielberg doc.
Could you tell me at what moment the crawl does appear?

It’s just a little after the 37 minute mark.

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adywan said:

I have the doc in HD and the crawl is upscaled

Man, even in straight-from-the-cable-box hd on an actual 720p tv with 1:1 pixel mapping, that wasn’t apparent at all. Although maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised by that.

There isn’t anything other than rabbit ears and a basic 2008 blu-ray player hooked up to my 1080p set (also from 2008), but I’m guessing it’s more noticeable at that res?

It would be fun to compare against the GOUT.

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I don’t quite get how high definition is an alteration but okay. What, do they think the original films were shot on vhs or something? That’s a common misconception that bugs the crap out of me with ignorant people, that hi def is a new thing. Sure it’s new for HOME MEDIA but films have always been made at a high resolution, or whatever the analog term for that would be.

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I don’t quite get how high definition is an alteration but okay. What, do they think the original films were shot on vhs or something? That’s a common misconception that bugs the crap out of me with ignorant people, that hi def is a new thing. Sure it’s new for HOME MEDIA but films have always been made at a high resolution, or whatever the analog term for that would be.

You’re talking about the same crowd that chose VHS over Betamax, and when shown Laserdisc said, Nice, but it doesn’t record. 😛

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I wonder how the popularity of LaserDisc would’ve fared if recordable discs had actually been marketed.