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There is one film I know for sure has a deliberately altered, revisionist CC. I think that it’s The French Connection. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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Wazzles said:

There is one film I know for sure has a deliberately altered, revisionist CC. I think that it’s The French Connection. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Yeah, that’s a pretty damn good example. At least they released an updated, if still not perfect, blu-ray.

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I have added the bar scene from Raiders, since the LPP shows it was heavily re-colored for home video releases.

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First post edited to include To Kill a Mockingbird.

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Wayne’s World has been added to the list.

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JayArgonaut said:

Another Cameron title for the list. Don’t forget the numerous digital revisions to T2: Judgement Day on the 3D theatrical re-release…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/James-Cameron-on-revising-a-scene-in-T23D-that-just-bugged-him/id/56348

These revisions will also be present on the 4K BD and (presumably) the standard BD that comes with it.

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After reading some info on the Internet about 20 minutes ago, it seems that Close Encounters (2017 master) also suffered (I don’t know what’s the extent of it, I haven’t bought it yet (gets released tomorrow in France)) a bit of revisionism. Why remove matte lines?

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CE3K and T2 have, unfortunately, been added to the list.

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Colson said:

JayArgonaut said:

Another Cameron title for the list. Don’t forget the numerous digital revisions to T2: Judgement Day on the 3D theatrical re-release…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/James-Cameron-on-revising-a-scene-in-T23D-that-just-bugged-him/id/56348

These revisions will also be present on the 4K BD and (presumably) the standard BD that comes with it.

That means it will become the default HD version of the theatrical release, much like with the Star Wars Blu-ray’s. I’ll stick with my DVD, just as I have with Aliens.

Bewy said:

After reading some info on the Internet about 20 minutes ago, it seems that Close Encounters (2017 master) also suffered (I don’t know what’s the extent of it, I haven’t bought it yet (gets released tomorrow in France)) a bit of revisionism. Why remove matte lines?

They cannot bear to allow the world to see the warts of their masterpieces. Pray they don’t alter them any further.

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There are differences between the 2003 DVD and 2010 Blu-ray versions of ALIEN: The Director’s Cut:

As the sun rises over LV-426, three helmet lights (representing the astronauts) have now been added, as they make their way round a large rock formation (for the 2010 Blu-ray).

The CGI mist that drifts past the derelict entrance as the three astronauts enter, is now missing from the 2010 Blu-ray.

Alternate take used for the insert shot of the Alien, just before Brett is attacked (for the 2010 Blu-ray).

Not sure about this last one, but the radio static (added for the 2003 DC) heard as Ripley uses the wall com to contact Parker or Lambert - after a confrontation with Ash - may or may not be missing from the 2010 Blu-ray?

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Slavicuss said:

There are differences between the 2003 DVD and 2010 Blu-ray versions of ALIEN: The Director’s Cut:

As the sun rises over LV-426, three helmet lights (representing the astronauts) have now been added, as they make their way round a large rock formation (for the 2010 Blu-ray).

The CGI mist that drifts past the derelict entrance as the three astronauts enter, is now missing from the 2010 Blu-ray.

Alternate take used for the insert shot of the Alien, just before Brett is attacked (for the 2010 Blu-ray).

Not sure about this last one, but the radio static (added for the 2003 DC) heard as Ripley uses the wall com to contact Parker or Lambert - after a confrontation with Ash - may or may not be missing from the 2010 Blu-ray?

I’ll add these but could I get some screenshots or something I can link to?

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MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

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Slavicuss said:

MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

I’ve the Anthology Blu-ray disc release. 1999 DVD release too. Kind of counts but I have no idea why it should.

Movie-Censorship.com has tons of version comparisons so there’s that.

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Good call on Movie-Censorship.com - it should’ve been mentioned sooner, great resource for this kind of research.

Another one that I somehow completely overlooked is Demolition Man.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/trivia

“For some non-American releases, references to Taco Bell were changed to Pizza Hut. This includes dubbing, plus changing the logos during post-production. Taco Bell remains in the closing credits. In both the Dutch and Swedish releases the subtitles still use Taco Bell while the sound and picture have been altered as above. Also, when using Closed Captioning on cable television, references to Taco Bell are changed to Pizza Hut.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpRzusd9Yi8

UK Blu-ray uses the the original US Taco Bell dialogue, whereas the Scandinavian release uses the Pizza Hut lines and contains the digital alterations seen in the comparison clip above. However in recent years, Sky Movies has apparently begun screening the Euro version.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1984589/demolition-man-taco-bell-changed-to-pizza-hut

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RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

I’ve the Anthology Blu-ray disc release. 1999 DVD release too. Kind of counts but I have no idea why it should.

Movie-Censorship.com has tons of version comparisons so there’s that.

The 1999 DVD release of ALIEN was only the theatrical cut. To view the differences between the 2003 & 2010 DIRECTOR’S CUTS, you need the 2003 DVD release of ALIEN (which included both the theatrical and the then new director’s cut) and the 2010 ALIEN Blu-ray (which also includes both cuts).

An example: The bonus creature shot of the Alien dangling near the chains above Brett before it attacks. This shot is exclusive to both director’s cuts. Compare that shot between the 2003 & 2010 director’s cuts and you will see they are different takes of the same scene. The camera pans up and almost past the Alien (for the 2003 version), and for the 2010 version the camera is still and stays on the Alien

I checked your link and there is only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical and director’s cut but no comparison between the two versions of the director’s cut (2003 & 2010).

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Slavicuss said:

RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

I’ve the Anthology Blu-ray disc release. 1999 DVD release too. Kind of counts but I have no idea why it should.

Movie-Censorship.com has tons of version comparisons so there’s that.

The 1999 DVD release of ALIEN was only the theatrical cut. To view the differences between the 2003 & 2010 DIRECTOR’S CUTS, you need the 2003 DVD release of ALIEN (which included both the theatrical and the then new director’s cut) and the 2010 ALIEN Blu-ray (which also includes both cuts).

An example: The bonus creature shot of the Alien dangling near the chains above Brett before it attacks. This shot is exclusive to both director’s cuts. Compare that shot between the 2003 & 2010 director’s cuts and you will see they are different takes of the same scene. The camera pans up and almost past the Alien (for the 2003 version), and for the 2010 version the camera is still and stays on the Alien

I checked your link and there is only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical and director’s cut but no comparison between the two versions of the director’s cut (2003 & 2010).

There are literally THOUSANDS of comparisons on that site I linked for movies.

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RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

I’ve the Anthology Blu-ray disc release. 1999 DVD release too. Kind of counts but I have no idea why it should.

Movie-Censorship.com has tons of version comparisons so there’s that.

The 1999 DVD release of ALIEN was only the theatrical cut. To view the differences between the 2003 & 2010 DIRECTOR’S CUTS, you need the 2003 DVD release of ALIEN (which included both the theatrical and the then new director’s cut) and the 2010 ALIEN Blu-ray (which also includes both cuts).

An example: The bonus creature shot of the Alien dangling near the chains above Brett before it attacks. This shot is exclusive to both director’s cuts. Compare that shot between the 2003 & 2010 director’s cuts and you will see they are different takes of the same scene. The camera pans up and almost past the Alien (for the 2003 version), and for the 2010 version the camera is still and stays on the Alien

I checked your link and there is only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical and director’s cut but no comparison between the two versions of the director’s cut (2003 & 2010).

There are literally THOUSANDS of comparisons on that site I linked for movies.

Yes, there are. It’s a great resource.

But it doesn’t have a comparison between the 2003 and 2010 versions of Alien, just a comparison between the 1978 and 2003 versions, so I don’t know why you keep arguing about how many comparisons the site has in this context.

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Spielberg yet again, this time with Minority Report. In the theatrical version, the Swedish dialogue spoken by Peter Stormare to his assistant was subtitled in English. This translation was removed from the home video (and from what I’ve seen), the TV broadcasts.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/alternateversions?ref_=tttrv_ql_5

JEDIT: forgot to add that Spielberg also altered the colour grading of the Blu-ray from that seen on the DVD.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Minority-Report-spoRv/id/16292

An insider at Paramount claims that from 1997 onwards, the colours on The Godfather and Part II have never been correct and very likely, never will be. A depressing read that also includes details of how the original negative was mishandled during the 80s for home video transfers.

http://godfathermuseum.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/screen-shots-and-technical-errata.html

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Back to the Future II: not necessarily a digital alteration but definitely a visual one.

The original: featuring “Coming Summer 1990”, as seen at the end of the theatrical and home video versions, including the Blu-ray:

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Removed from the version shown in recent years by ITV (UK) and the “BTTF Part III” logo also appears to have been altered from the original.

HDTV

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JayArgonaut said:

An insider at Paramount claims that from 1997 onwards, the colours on The Godfather and Part II have never been correct and very likely, never will be. A depressing read that also includes details of how the original negative was mishandled during the 80s for home video transfers.

http://godfathermuseum.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/screen-shots-and-technical-errata.html

Man, I never would have known. The Coppola restorations of the first two are top notch releases that look phenomenal.

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Yes, I agree, they definitely look phenomenal but as the insider laments…

“So on the one hand you have a beautiful transfer but the color is off. Badly. And it’s not going to be corrected in this lifetime.”

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ChainsawAsh said:

RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

RayRogers said:

Slavicuss said:

MOVIE-CENSORSHIP.COM has only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical version and the director’s cut.

I don’t have a Blu-ray drive, so cannot provide any screen shots.

Anybody still owning the old QUADRILOGY DVD box set - or the 2003 2-disc DVD release of ALIEN - as well as the current ANTHOLOGY Blu-ray release, (or just the Blu-ray release of ALIEN) can check for themselves.

I’ve the Anthology Blu-ray disc release. 1999 DVD release too. Kind of counts but I have no idea why it should.

Movie-Censorship.com has tons of version comparisons so there’s that.

The 1999 DVD release of ALIEN was only the theatrical cut. To view the differences between the 2003 & 2010 DIRECTOR’S CUTS, you need the 2003 DVD release of ALIEN (which included both the theatrical and the then new director’s cut) and the 2010 ALIEN Blu-ray (which also includes both cuts).

An example: The bonus creature shot of the Alien dangling near the chains above Brett before it attacks. This shot is exclusive to both director’s cuts. Compare that shot between the 2003 & 2010 director’s cuts and you will see they are different takes of the same scene. The camera pans up and almost past the Alien (for the 2003 version), and for the 2010 version the camera is still and stays on the Alien

I checked your link and there is only a comparison between the ALIEN theatrical and director’s cut but no comparison between the two versions of the director’s cut (2003 & 2010).

There are literally THOUSANDS of comparisons on that site I linked for movies.

Yes, there are. It’s a great resource.

But it doesn’t have a comparison between the 2003 and 2010 versions of Alien, just a comparison between the 1978 and 2003 versions, so I don’t know why you keep arguing about how many comparisons the site has in this context.

Because of the thread title and not specifically what you were typing about.

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You replied to a post specifically talking about the differences between the 2003 and 2010 versions of the Alien DC and the fact that there is no comparison for those two versions on that website with a post that basically said “BUT THIS WEBSITE!!!” You even quoted said post in your reply.

The site is a great resource, but not useful for comparing the two things that the post you quoted was specifically talking about comparing.