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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
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Originally posted by: Kingsamasacrificing, yes. declaring her life meaningless no. Juest like in AotC where obi tells ani to do as padme would do, here yoda is telling luke to look towards the greater good and to serve it.

But Obi Wan doesn't secretly have Padme in his pocket as his next apprentice.

it doesnt matter, yoda and obi wan both state that you cant tell the future and that if need be leia and han should be sacrificed if it means toppling the empire. That doesnt mean he thinks of her of meaningless, only that he doesnt see her as more important that defeating the emperor and vader.

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i would say that anyone would do the same, imagine if you had the scurg of the universe in front of you responsible for killing millions, you would take an angery swipe too.

Saying anyone would do the same doesn't hold any weight, because the Jedi are supposed to be better than that. Sith use their emotions for their power. Thus, by acting out of a carnage emotion, Luke has begun his decent.

I suppose we must agree to disagree, because i think there is a huge difference in loosing control under exceptional circumstances, and then overcoming it in the end with the emporer, and embrassing those feelings and slaughtering women and children of your own free will.

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so what you are saying is that when han is getting shot at in the clouds and then given the run around, also in the clouds he has the time or the presences of mind to search the horizen for ships???

If TIE Fighters and Star Destoyers come up on the radar, I would think an Imperial Shuttle would as well. Not to mention SLAVE I. Now, maybe SLAVE I had a cloaking device, but I never heard about it.

so an imperial shuttle, the same type of shuttle that han later flies on endor, landed on a platform across the city would show up on the radar. Why would they need tie fighters at first? why would they need star destroyers? all they would have to do is hide them elsewhere in the system while vaders private shuttle and slave 1 are on cloud city. The question also has to be asked if in a city could the falcons radar pick out and identify specific shuttles, my memory is a bit hazy...