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Originally posted by: R2
Whoshew! For a second there I thought you were gonna say the new Apes movie was the best. I hated the new one. Total mind rot. The apes looked great but the whole thing just stunk. In my opinion. For me, there was really no good reason to remake that movie. The original was and will always be the best. I will say that neither film folows the book that closely. However, at least the original had characters that were in the book. Not one character in the new film was ever mentioned in the book. Burton really messed that movie up.
As for T2. It doesn't matter which version you see, they still kill Miles, blow up Skynet and destroy all of the Terminator chips. Therefore, logically, how can the machines rise? All traces of them have been destroyed. The only logical way for this to happen is if someone went back in time to before Miles was killed and stole the chip that Skynet had from the original Terminator. Now if that happened, then maybe, I could buy the story of T3. However, by traveling back in time to steal the original Terminator chip then that pretty much negates the events of T2. Sarrah's whole quest to stop Skynet in T2 becomes a mute point.
Also by your logic, if the future is unchangable, then why did they send the Terminator back in time to kill Sarah in the first place? If the future is unchangable then with or without Kyle's involvement or the Terminator's, John was going to be born and therefore become the leader of the human resistance. It didn't matter how many Terminator's went back in time to kill Sarrah or John, they were going to live to fulfill their destiny.
The future is the past. The past is the future. The whole thing gives me a headache.
Skynet thought like you. They believed it could be changed so did John which is why he sent Kyle back. He knew Kyle was his father when he sent him back. Also if Judgement Day had been stoped then John and both Terminators would have vanished the second Skynet was destroyed. No skynet means no Kyle, no Kyle means no John. The fact that John didn't vanish means that Judgement Day still is going to happen. John and Skynet are connected to each other. Neither can live without the other and both destroy each other at the same time. If John never sent Kyle back then John would have never excisted. Its called fate. No fate is a lie. Or at least in the first and third movie it is.