Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 433

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Author: yhwx
Time: 7-Sep-2017 10:01 PM (Edited)
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I found this interesting:

https://twitter.com/gte/status/905957013452140545

Great ad but, no, they don’t. Aspirational edicts aside it’s simply not the case for far too many Americans. https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/905930380783620097

https://twitter.com/gte/status/905969282475053057

@Moltz American values, statistically, favour a poor education, poor health, poverty in pursuit of health, and poor ability to elect leaders.

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 7-Sep-2017 10:37 PM
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/court-rejects-trump-administration-attempt-to-include-extended-family-in-travel-ban-242461

President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy suffered another defeat Thursday as an appeals court rejected the administration’s attempt to deny grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins of Americans a temporary exemption from the controversial executive order.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously declined to overturn a district court judge’s ruling that the administration was taking too narrow a view of an exception the Supreme Court carved out from the travel ban in June.

Author: SilverWook
Time: 7-Sep-2017 11:19 PM
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How did this remain under my radar for over a year?
https://youtu.be/ZbM6WbUw7Bs

Where were you in '77?

Author: Warbler
Time: 7-Sep-2017 11:31 PM
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What in hell is that?

Author: CatBus
Time: 8-Sep-2017 12:00 AM
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Warbler said:

What in hell is that?

It’s a documentary someone found in an unlocked time machine.

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 12:26 AM
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Another asshole sits for the anthem. (and yes, I know you all think I’m the asshole)

Author: Jeebus
Time: 8-Sep-2017 12:31 AM
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Warbler said:

Another asshole sits for the anthem. (and yes, I know you all think I’m the asshole)

Another

PATRIOT

showing us all how great this country really is!

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 12:38 AM (Edited)
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No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

Author: moviefreakedmind
Time: 8-Sep-2017 12:48 AM
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I’m sure he is an asshole. Most people are, and an even higher percentage of athletes are if high school was any indication.

The Person in Question

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 8-Sep-2017 2:48 AM
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^Okay, this made me ALLOL.

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 8-Sep-2017 8:30 AM
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Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

No, it insults you. You are not the country.

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 8-Sep-2017 8:31 AM
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CatBus said:

Warbler said:

What in hell is that?

It’s a documentary someone found in an unlocked time machine.

Actually it’s by the same guy who did this awesome EAT THE ICE CREAM commercial that Wook posted elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IFNKYmLa8

Also I’m almost positive I posted that video in the thread last year.

Author: dahmage
Time: 8-Sep-2017 8:52 AM
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Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

That seems like overly complicated logic.

Jeebus is absolutely correct the thing that sets our country apart is the fact that it is acceptable, or at least should be acceptable, to protest the government.

Author: chyron8472
Time: 8-Sep-2017 1:55 PM (Edited)
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chyron8472 said:

I read somewhere that Trump’s “drain the swamp” base hates the GOP establishment, and that Trump is actually following his base by not doing them any favors.

Warbler said:

really? I thought his base hated the Dems even more.

You know, I don’t know degrees to which they hate whichever side, but basically there are reasons why none of the other GOP candidates stood a chance against Trump in the primaries. Cruz kind of did, but he’s a Tea Partier and they were the most recent previously popular non-status-quo group among right wingers.

Suffice it to say that I think many people don’t actually know how politics (esp. in Washington) actually works, so they voted Trump in as a sort of wrecking ball against the establishment, regardless of which side that refers to.

The Democrats voted for Obama for similar reasons, but unfortunately Obama didn’t actually know how to buddy up to the GOP leaders to get what he wanted and so the GOP shut him down. At this point, (or at least for the time being) it seems Trump doesn’t care about the GOP leaders for the same reason but in reverse. Meanwhile, it would appear that (again at least for the time being) Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi have figured out how to butter his bread.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author: chyron8472
Time: 8-Sep-2017 2:12 PM (Edited)
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Warbler said:

Another asshole sits for the anthem. (and yes, I know you all think I’m the asshole)

Jeebus said:

Another PATRIOT showing us all how great this country really is!

*shrug* I’m… actually on the fence about this issue.

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

But I agree with this. However, I think it’s neither as offensive nor as benign as people make it out to be. I think what I find most offensive is that people in either camp make such a big deal out of it. The man sat; let him sit. It might be offensive, but it’s less offensive if people don’t draw big red circles with arrows pointing at the man.

It’s like the media feeds off of sensationalism, so who cares if this argument is hurting the country. Let’s argue about it nonstop anyway. The man is allowed to sit, so unless we want to make it illegal for him to do so, just let the man sit as though his voice didn’t matter. To complain about his voice only helps to make it louder.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 8-Sep-2017 2:48 PM (Edited)
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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I am the country.

Not yet.

Fixed that for both of you.

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:33 PM
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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

That seems like overly complicated logic.

Jeebus is absolutely correct the thing that sets our country apart is the fact that it is acceptable, or at least should be acceptable, to protest the government.

It is not complicated at all. What sets our country apart is that it is legal to protest the nation anthem, not that it is acceptable. Of course there are ways to protest the government that are both legal and acceptable. The point, no form of protest needs to be “acceptable”, it just needs to be legal. That is the important thing, and is what sets up apart.

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:33 PM
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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

No, it insults you. You are not the country.

You are not the country either.

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:35 PM
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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

No, it insults you. You are not the country.

You are not the country either.

I’m not insulted, so your response makes no sense.

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:38 PM
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chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

Another asshole sits for the anthem. (and yes, I know you all think I’m the asshole)

Jeebus said:

Another PATRIOT showing us all how great this country really is!

*shrug* I’m… actually on the fence about this issue.

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

But I agree with this. However, I think it’s neither as offensive nor as benign as people make it out to be. I think what I find most offensive is that people in either camp make such a big deal out of it. The man sat; let him sit. It might be offensive, but it’s less offensive if people don’t draw big red circles with arrows pointing at the man.

How many times do I have to say that it is legal for them to protest the anthem and that I wouldn’t want it any other way?

It’s like the media feeds off of sensationalism, so who cares if this argument is hurting the country. Let’s argue about it nonstop anyway. The man is allowed to sit, so unless we want to make it illegal for him to do so, just let the man sit as though his voice didn’t matter. To complain about his voice only helps to make it louder.

Sorry when I see something I think worthy of complaint, I complain about it. You could have made the same argument about the Westboro Baptists, yet it stop people complaining about them either(note: I am not saying the people protesting the anthem are as bad as those that protest funerals).

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:39 PM
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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

No, it insults you. You are not the country.

You are not the country either.

I’m not insulted, so your response makes no sense.

You claim that I can’t say it insults the country, because I am not the country. Therefore, since you are also not the country, you can not claim it does not insult the country.

Author: chyron8472
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:46 PM (Edited)
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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

No, what makes this country great, is that he can do it. Actually doing it does not make the country great. It insults the country.

No, it insults you. You are not the country.

You are not the country either.

I’m not insulted, so your response makes no sense.

Actually, it does.

How I interpret it is this: There is a difference between an insult to the country as an entity and an insult to the collective citizens of the country.

Warbler might himself be offended, yes, but he feels offended on behalf of the country as an entity, as though the dignity of that entity is something that should be protected and/or respected.

He’s not saying that man is insulting everyone and their dog who collectively live in the country. And by his saying that you, Frink, are not the country, he’s saying that you can’t speak directly for the entity that is the country when you say you’re not offended because your personal dignity is not akin to that of respecting the country itself.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author: chyron8472
Time: 8-Sep-2017 3:52 PM
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Warbler said:

How many times do I have to say that it is legal for them to protest the anthem and that I wouldn’t want it any other way?

What I’m saying is, in my view it’s not worth arguing about. It wouldn’t be a big deal if people didn’t make a big deal about it.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author: Warbler
Time: 8-Sep-2017 4:00 PM
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again, same is true for those protesting funerals, yet people still made big deal about that.

Author: SilverWook
Time: 8-Sep-2017 4:04 PM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/rush-limbaugh-hurricane-irma-media-florida-2017-9

Where were you in '77?