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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 6

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lovelikewinter said:

Is The Last Jedi done? I know it was supposed to be done in August. The real question is does Rian want to devote another two years to Star Wars?

“A movie is never finished, only abandoned.”

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Getting the director of the second movie to finish off the trilogy would certainly be an interesting move, and it’s happened with several other franchises in recent years. Paul Greengrass with Bourne 2/3 and Matt Reeves with these last two Apes movies both come to mind.

I feel like it almost certainly won’t be JJ. He looked and sounded exhausted by the end of TFA, and IX will have an even more compressed schedule if they really are going to have this in theaters by Memorial Day weekend of 2019. He was going to take a break after Star Trek Into Darkness and spend more time with his family when Kennedy offered him VII. Last I heard, he was going to direct that miniseries of The Nix with Meryl Streep. Checking “direct a Star Wars movie” off his bucket list was probably enough for him.

As for why Trevorrow is leaving, I feel like Book of Henry isn’t the reason. For all we know, this might have been more his decision than Kennedy’s.

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They will delay IX to December. They’d be crazy not to with what’s going on with the production.

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Lord Tobias said:

we need this thing pushed back to december 2020 or 2021

That’d be pushing back at least 3-4 other Star Wars movies as well. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

A talented writer could make this arrangement work, though, especially if he’s already got half the story and an idea where it could go from there…

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I’d say a Filoni/Johnson writing team and Johnson or someone good with endings to direct. If Abrams gets involved again it will be a disaster, even if he is director (directors get to direct the editing stage and Abrams must not do that again). Lucas always liked to take his time writing and developing, but we all saw how well that worked for the PT installments. Writing a good story doesn’t take long if you have a good idea to begin with and good writers working on it.

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Speaking of, I was really suprised to see Rian Johnson get a sole writing credit on TLJ, in a very good way. It’s pretty much a given for a studio picture to have multiple writers, but you can never achieve the level of cohesion a single writer can bring vs a team (much less with a ‘team’ of re-writers).

Even if that script ends up being flawed, it will still have character. Depending on your process and the story you’re looking for during that process writing can take time. Some people are fast writers, some can take ages. It’s not science, it’s art.

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m_s0 said:

They will delay IX to December. They’d be crazy not to with what’s going on with the production.

They have to now and I couldn’t be happier. Christmas time is far more special with Star Wars in it 😃

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Okay, I’m a little late to the party here, so sorry if someone already posted something like this, but…

Why would anyone ever want to direct a star wars movie now? This is the third director they’ve kicked off a project! What director wants to submit himself to micromanaging, intense corporate scrutiny, just to be kicked out when Lucasfilm decides they’ve had enough of you?

JEDIT: Just checked, It’s actually the fourth director they’ve dropped, though two of them were partners.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/09/06/colin-trevorrows-star-wars-sacking-shows-franchise-creative/

Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? none holds them up except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. – Quran (16:79)

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Gareth Edwards wasn’t dropped.

Star Wars is the ultimate franchise for many directors. The dropping of directors just means that any new ones will have to bring their A-game.

The one concerning one is still the Lord/Miller firing, which does bring into question creative freedom, rather than simply quality. But we still don’t have the full story there.

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No, but Josh Trank was.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Yeah, I forgot about him. Honestly I think they just made some hirings that weren’t to level they were ultimately expecting. Here’s hoping that their hesitation to announce the next slate of films means closer scrutiny before they bring people on.

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Signing on to a Star Wars project is a massive commitment. Years out of one’s life. An intense period of preparation, then relocating to England for the duration of the shoot. One reason Abrams initially balked at taking on TFA was either be away from his family or uproot them and bring them along.
Getting sacked from a Star Wars film is probably as mentally devastating as losing a presidential election. Even more so if you’ve been a life long fan. Who in their right mind is going to want that level of stress knowing the axe is constantly hanging over your neck?

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YodaFan67 said:

Okay, I’m a little late to the party here, so sorry if someone already posted something like this, but…

Why would anyone ever want to direct a star wars movie now? This is the third director they’ve kicked off a project! What director wants to submit himself to micromanaging, intense corporate scrutiny, just to be kicked out when Lucasfilm decides they’ve had enough of you?

JEDIT: Just checked, It’s actually the fourth director they’ve dropped, though two of them were partners.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/09/06/colin-trevorrows-star-wars-sacking-shows-franchise-creative/

Lord and Miller are the only ones they’ve outright fired.

Rogue One may have been touched up by Tony Gilroy, but the movie still has Edwards’ name on it and he seemed fine with the finished product.

We still don’t know the details of Trevorrow’s departure.

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We’ll probably never know those details. Lucasfilm is going spin doctor the hell out of things as much as they can. It’s bad press as it is.

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SilverWook said:

Signing on to a Star Wars project is a massive commitment. Years out of one’s life. An intense period of preparation, then relocating to England for the duration of the shoot. One reason Abrams initially balked at taking on TFA was either be away from his family or uproot them and bring them along.
Getting sacked from a Star Wars film is probably as mentally devastating as losing a presidential election. Even more so if you’ve been a life long fan. Who in their right mind is going to want that level of stress knowing the axe is constantly hanging over your neck?

There’s no doubt it’d be a crushing disappointment. But for many directors, Star Wars is the reason they wanted to make movies in the first place. Even with the threat of the axe, I’m sure many would hate themselves if they didn’t at least give it a shot. I know I would, anyway, if I were in that situation.

Ultimately too, what’s worse, getting kicked off a Star Wars movie before you start production? Or making a shitty Star Wars movie and having everyone hate you forever? Because it’s quite possible Trevorrow was heading for the latter.

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It’s quite possible Trevorrow realized it, and decided himself that he wasn’t up to the task.

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Funny how George gets most of the hate for ROTJ, and not Richard Marquand.

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I think the reason why most people lay the blame of lucas’s shoulders is because most of return of the Jedi’s problems were very much story related…not director related

Hell if the story of return of the jedi was better than I would not be suprised that Harrison Ford would have put more effort along with carrie

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http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/star-wars-episode-8-colin-trevorrow-firing-explanation.html

Apparently Trevorrow tried to go up against Kennedy and had a big head from the success of Jurassic World.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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Hollywood insider gossip. Easy to say, difficult to prove. 😉

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The too much too fast ego theory fits with all three instances of people being fired though. It’s speculation, but it’s easy to imagine. These “insiders” need to be more wild and imaginative.

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It’s certainly true of Josh Trank at least, who infamously got into some troubles during production (and release) of Fant4stic.

It’s possible it’s true of Trevorrow, though if people were supposedly frustrated with him on JW, Kennedy wouldn’t have hired him in the first place.