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Trying to score points with their Facebook contingent, no doubt.

And yeah, I can’t deny Guinness in brown face is unfortunate, but what can you do, much better movie than GWTW.

Ultimately it depends what kind of theater it is. Hard for me to tell, not being familiar with it. But I can see why GWTW might okay for some theaters (that routinely play old movies of all different shapes and sizes), while not necessarily for others (for which playing an old movie is a rarer, community engagement type event). Personally, just thinking about the theaters near me that I know best from back home, I can easily see why it might just be a better choice to go with something different.

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Not everybody is as savvy to socks as we are. Which is why these little troll campaigns are successful.

The people who object to the movie aren’t going to know Sir Alec from a hole in the ground, let alone he’s not Arab. They’re going to label it propaganda or worse probably sight unseen.

Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

Hell will freeze over before we ever see an official release of Song Of The South now.

racist!

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I doubt they’re socks. I’ve got a lot of real Facebook “friends” who do stupid shit like that. Whether it’s a troll campaign is up for debate (usually those come from the alt-right side of thin anyway).

I don’t think it’s that big a deal honestly. Like I said, it depends on the theater. Considering they call it a summer movie series it makes me think they don’t play very many movies, so the ones they do count. I know a great theater that sometimes plays b movie schlock I’ve never heard of before, but no one complains because that’s just what they do every weekend. On the other hand I know a different theater that is typically for plays and music acts. They hold a summer movie series too, and the theme always seems to be “crowd pleasing and inoffensive.” If a movie can’t overcome that threshold, I don’t see why it’s crazy not to play it. Silly, maybe, but not crazy.

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The point is if you don’t like a movie, nobody is forcing you to go and watch it.

If they play Rocky Horror and get complaints are they going yank that too?

Worth mentioning GWTW sports a G rating. Can’t get more inoffensive than that. 😛

At the rate things are going, a riot is going to break out at a screening of the My Little Pony Movie.

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I’m highly doubtful that this is a troll campaign. I think many real people actually believe in the cause.

In more important news:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-business-sought-deal-on-a-trump-tower-in-moscow-while-he-ran-for-president/2017/08/27/d6e95114-8b65-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html

While Donald Trump was running for president in late 2015 and early 2016, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a massive Trump Tower in Moscow, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by Trump Organization lawyers.

As part of the discussions, a Russian-born real estate developer urged Trump to come to Moscow to tout the proposal and suggested that he could get President Vladimir Putin to say “great things” about Trump, according to several people who have been briefed on his correspondence.

The developer, Felix Sater, predicted in a November 2015 email that he and Trump Organization leaders would soon be celebrating — both one of the biggest residential projects in real estate history and Donald Trump’s election as president, according to two of the people with knowledge of the exchange.

Sater wrote to Trump Organization Executive Vice President Michael Cohen “something to the effect of, ‘Can you believe two guys from Brooklyn are going to elect a president?’ ” said one person briefed on the email exchange. Sater emigrated from what was then the Soviet Union when he was 6 and grew up in Brooklyn.

Trump never went to Moscow as Sater proposed. And although investors and Trump’s company signed a letter of intent, they lacked the land and permits to proceed and the project was abandoned at the end of January 2016, just before the presidential primaries began, several people familiar with the proposal said.

Nevertheless, the details of the deal, which have not previously been disclosed, provide evidence that Trump’s business was actively pursuing significant commercial interests in Russia at the same time he was campaigning to be president — and in a position to determine U.S.-Russia relations. The new details from the emails, which are scheduled to be turned over to congressional investigators soon, also point to the likelihood of additional contacts between Russia-connected individuals and Trump associates during his presidential bid.

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SilverWook said:

And somebody will get offended by LOA, you can count on it.

What would offend someone in that movie?

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Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

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SilverWook said:

Worth mentioning GWTW sports a G rating. Can’t get more inoffensive than that. 😛

I am surprised that GWTW has a G rating. There is violence in the movie. Adult subject matter discussed. There is a scene suggesting rape occurred. There is a famous scene where their are a whole lot of wounded people moaning and groaning. Horse is ridden to death in the movie. I think the n-word might be used in the movie, I can’t remember for certain. I am pretty certain another racial slur for African Americans, beginning with the letter d is used in the movie. Finally, there is the famous curse word at the end of the movie. I think this at least rates a PG rating.

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SilverWook said:

The point is if you don’t like a movie, nobody is forcing you to go and watch it.

If they play Rocky Horror and get complaints are they going yank that too?

Worth mentioning GWTW sports a G rating. Can’t get more inoffensive than that. 😛

At the rate things are going, a riot is going to break out at a screening of the My Little Pony Movie.

My point is just that if a lot of people don’t like a movie and aren’t going to watch it, I don’t see why it’s crazy for the theater to play a different movie instead.

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darth_ender said:

Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

true, but it is not same as “blackface”. With “blackface”, the intent was comedy via making fun of the the African American face. If I am not mistaken, while the Arabs were played by whites in makeup, the intend was to play them seriously and realistically, and not to make fun of the Arabs.

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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Worth mentioning GWTW sports a G rating. Can’t get more inoffensive than that. 😛

I am surprised that GWTW has a G rating. There is violence in the movie. Adult subject matter discussed. There is a scene suggesting rape occurred. There is a famous scene where their are a whole lot of wounded people moaning and groaning. Horse is ridden to death in the movie. I think the n-word might be used in the movie, I can’t remember for certain. I am pretty certain another racial slur for African Americans, beginning with the letter d is used in the movie. Finally, there is the famous curse word at the end of the movie. I think this at least rates a PG rating.

It got a G rating in the early 70’s, which had not yet become a label for kiddie fare. The Planet of The Apes sequels got G ratings too, and have as much if not more violence.

You generally couldn’t curse in the movies in 1939, and an alternate version was contemplated, (can’t recall if they shot it) but they remained faithful to the book in the end. The motion picture production code office merely fined the producer and the sun came up the next day.
You can say hell and damn in a G film. See Star Trek The Motion Picture.

The N word is not said in the movie. David O Selznick actually toned down such things from the novel. I’m not sure it’s uttered in any movies made before the 1960’s.

Where were you in '77?

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Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

true, but it is not same as “blackface”. With “blackface”, the intent was comedy via making fun of the the African American face. If I am not mistaken, while the Arabs were played by whites in makeup, the intend was to play them seriously and realistically, and not to make fun of the Arabs.

I don’t disagree. That’s why I put a question mark. Just answering why some might worry that it could cause offense.

And I just wanted to post because it is my pleasure.

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But you serve at our pleasure.

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Well, if it ever turned out you were unleashing my incredible mental powers on real enemies instead a simulation, you can bet I’d withdraw my participation in a heartbeat! I serve at no one’s pleasure but my own! You think I’m some sort of child?

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SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Worth mentioning GWTW sports a G rating. Can’t get more inoffensive than that. 😛

I am surprised that GWTW has a G rating. There is violence in the movie. Adult subject matter discussed. There is a scene suggesting rape occurred. There is a famous scene where their are a whole lot of wounded people moaning and groaning. Horse is ridden to death in the movie. I think the n-word might be used in the movie, I can’t remember for certain. I am pretty certain another racial slur for African Americans, beginning with the letter d is used in the movie. Finally, there is the famous curse word at the end of the movie. I think this at least rates a PG rating.

It got a G rating in the early 70’s, which had not yet become a label for kiddie fare. The Planet of The Apes sequels got G ratings too, and have as much if not more violence.

weird.

You generally couldn’t curse in the movies in 1939, and an alternate version was contemplated, (can’t recall if they shot it) but they remained faithful to the book in the end. The motion picture production code office merely fined the producer and the sun came up the next day.

I know that there was talk about the line being changed to darn, but they decided against that. I agree with it, a man like Rhett Butler would not say darn in that situation.

You can say hell and damn in a G film. See Star Trek The Motion Picture.

That is rated G? Didn’t know that. I would have thought the transporter accident would have been enough to make it PG.

The N word is not said in the movie. David O Selznick actually toned down such things from the novel. I’m not sure it’s uttered in any movies made before the 1960’s.

I still pretty sure the racial slur starting with d was in the movie.

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darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

true, but it is not same as “blackface”. With “blackface”, the intent was comedy via making fun of the the African American face. If I am not mistaken, while the Arabs were played by whites in makeup, the intend was to play them seriously and realistically, and not to make fun of the Arabs.

I don’t disagree. That’s why I put a question mark. Just answering why some might worry that it could cause offense.

And I just wanted to post because it is my pleasure.

I suppose it is possible, in world where a fantasy football auction involving both white and black players is thought to be offensive.

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Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

true, but it is not same as “blackface”. With “blackface”, the intent was comedy via making fun of the the African American face. If I am not mistaken, while the Arabs were played by whites in makeup, the intend was to play them seriously and realistically, and not to make fun of the Arabs.

I don’t disagree. That’s why I put a question mark. Just answering why some might worry that it could cause offense.

And I just wanted to post because it is my pleasure.

I suppose it is possible, in world where a fantasy football auction involving both white and black players is thought to be offensive.

Goddamn pesky blacks telling white people what’s offensive! When will they learn to keep their mouths shut?

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darth_ender said:

Well, if it ever turned out you were unleashing my incredible mental powers

Sorry, I stopped reading there because I couldn’t see the screen through my tears of laughter.

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Warbler said:

That is rated G? Didn’t know that. I would have thought the transporter accident would have been enough to make it PG.

Thanks for reminding of my favorite nightmare fuel. The scene without optical effects is pretty goofy looking though.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

Arabs played by whites with makeup and Latinos?

true, but it is not same as “blackface”. With “blackface”, the intent was comedy via making fun of the the African American face. If I am not mistaken, while the Arabs were played by whites in makeup, the intend was to play them seriously and realistically, and not to make fun of the Arabs.

I don’t disagree. That’s why I put a question mark. Just answering why some might worry that it could cause offense.

And I just wanted to post because it is my pleasure.

I suppose it is possible, in world where a fantasy football auction involving both white and black players is thought to be offensive.

Goddamn pesky blacks telling white people what’s offensive! When will they learn to keep their mouths shut?

Just to be clear, I do not want African Americans to keep their mouths shut when it comes to something that offends them. Even with something like the fantasy football auction. I might disagree with them and say this really shouldn’t bother you imho, but I would never tell them to keep their mouths shut. If something bothers/offends African Americans, I want to know it.

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SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

That is rated G? Didn’t know that. I would have thought the transporter accident would have been enough to make it PG.

Thanks for reminding of my favorite nightmare fuel. The scene without optical effects is pretty goofy looking though.

I never realized that actually had the actor who played Sonak on the transport pad in that scene. I also never realized the other person was a female.

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Warbler said:

I might disagree with them and say this really shouldn’t bother you imho, but I would never tell them to keep their mouths shut.

I get that there’s a difference between those two things, but it’s a pretty small one.

If something bothers/offends African Americans, I want to know it.

So you can say it shouldn’t?