Do you include me in your list of “self-righteous jerks”? You did say “I can’t engage with any of you.”.
I’m tired and irritable and not in the mood to put up with how liberals describe my views on abortion. You’re not part of that crowd. This thread is just not fun anymore, and this is why hardly post in it anymore.
Oh, shut up. We weren’t describing your views on abortion. We were discussing what labels regarding stance on abortion may (or may not) be more (or less) accurate in general, and our individual opinions of why they might or might not be accurate.
Now, instead of using liberal as an epithet and putting everyone of apparently opposing view in a box while complaining about how they put you in a box, why don’t you be an adult and actually try having an intelligent rational conversation.
I’m very sorry that I offended you by stating that the Left is overgeneralizing. How dare I broach such a sensitive topic with such callousness. I feel awful that I hurt your feelings!
everybody likes choice
Not everybody. That’s the point isn’t it?
What about pro and anti-choice?
So if someone opposes abortion, that means they oppose choice? It doesn’t mean they hold life sacred from conception? It doesn’t mean they value the future of the child?
They oppose someone having the choice to abort.
Pro-choice people take away the child’s choice.
In the medical field, if a patient requires emergency treatment or even surgery that would require consent, but is unable to give consent (i.e. the patient is unconscious), medical staff may provide treatment in what is termed “implied consent.” It is assumed that, without any contrary evidence, the person wants to live and the medical team will be obliged to provide all possible care to save that patient.
In the case of a fetus, I see the same as applicable. That fetus is a very young, immature human that will continue to grow and develop barring any interruption of the natural process of development. In my mind, that fetus has given implied consent to the mother and all others involved in her care to continue to allow that fetus to thrive.
Let’s even take it a step further. Let me give you a choice: if I had a time machine and I told you that your mother was not financially capable of raising a child when she was pregnant with you, and I told you that she seriously debated whether or not she should abort you, would you consent for me to go back in time and perform that abortion?
I know that a lot of this may seem silly or too hypothetical for you, so I will provide one last example: the fetus facing abortion will likely develop into a baby, who will develop into a child, who will develop into an adolescent, who will develop into an adult. All throughout the remainder of that fetus’s life, he/she will be faced with millions of choices. But because of the choice of one other person, that entire future of choices was taken from the fetus. All because someone felt that it was her right to disrupt the natural flow of human development, that fetus will never have the choice to do anything in life. I am pro-the-child’s-choices.