It’s not an anomaly, it’s a reel change. Frames always get cut at reel changes. Even PAL GOUT is missing frames. I don’t think there’s a single home video release that contains “all the frames ever included in any home video release”. It just happens. But most home video releases contain all the frames seen theatrically, and then some.
As I said, I have not done a complete examination of the UK PAL versions of TESB and ROTJ, but the ANH UK PAL GOUT is not missing a single frame at the reel changes that is included in any other version nor is it missing any other frames. It matches the DE LD frame for frame and the DVD and Blu-ray at all the reel changes and in all the non SE sections. The US GOUT is not far off, but it is missing that one frame.
As I said, I have not done a complete examination of the UK PAL versions of TESB and ROTJ, but the ANH UK PAL GOUT is not missing a single frame at the reel changes that is included in any other version nor is it missing any other frames. It matches the DE LD frame for frame and the DVD and Blu-ray at all the reel changes and in all the non SE sections. The US GOUT is not far off, but it is missing that one frame.
PAL GOUT (including UK) is missing a frame compared to NTSC GOUT in ROTJ (Ewoks jump a log reel change), but there’s the whole thread linked above talking about frames missing from both, which I can’t verify, but seems pretty exhaustive.
Again, missing is a misnomer IMO. A frame can’t be missing if it was never seen in any theatre in the first place. But some home releases contain more extra/bonus frames than others 😉
As I said, I have not done a complete examination of the UK PAL versions of TESB and ROTJ, but the ANH UK PAL GOUT is not missing a single frame at the reel changes that is included in any other version nor is it missing any other frames. It matches the DE LD frame for frame and the DVD and Blu-ray at all the reel changes and in all the non SE sections. The US GOUT is not far off, but it is missing that one frame.
PAL GOUT (including UK) is missing a frame compared to NTSC GOUT in ROTJ (Ewoks jump a log reel change), but there’s the whole thread linked above talking about frames missing from both, which I can’t verify, but seems pretty exhaustive.
Again, missing is a misnomer IMO. A frame can’t be missing if it was never seen in any theatre in the first place. But some home releases contain more extra/bonus frames than others 😉
That seems a bit excessive to say that these trailing frames were never seen in any theater. We don’t know that. A careful projectionist might have spliced the films together perfectly for a big platter projector or they may have skillfully done it the old manual way and in both cases it is possible all these frames were seen in many theaters across the world. But as the films were pulled from their first run venues, and the leaders spliced back on, and then when they were prepared at the next venue, frames started to get cut off and vanish. What we are left with, both in the home video arena, and in the preserved 35 mm films, are not stellar, first run quality prints. The only version of the films that we know that were telecined or scanned from unreleased prints were the Definitive Edition LD set, the Faces LD set, and the GOUT. How and why frames are missing from one version and not another is a mystery, but when you also compare them to the 97 SE broadcast, the DVD and the Blu-ray, it is easy to put them back together.
I will have to compare the US GOUT, the UK GOUT, the DE preservations (I have two), the JSC, and the SWE, and maybe the French, Spanish, and German widescreen versions if I feel compelled. Althor1138 has made a lot of these available on MySpleen and I’ve downloaded them. I’ve already done most of these for ANH, but I will have to take a look at TESB and ROTJ. So far, what I’ve seen is that the UK GOUT aligns with the DVD and Blu-ray, but it has been a while so I will double check that.
It is true that a keen eye can see some of the seams, but it does nothing but add to the amount of perceived craftmanship and magic these works irradiate!
Now I only have to add my brother to the mix, and we will have a great summer viewing experience!!!
Thanks a lot!
Now I only have to add my brother to the mix, and we will have a great summer viewing experience!!!
Thanks a lot!
I am going to do the same. 😃
I’m not sure if this is the appropriate place for this, but since I’ve seen discussions regarding ebay sellers in this thread I thought I’d ask.
The above seller has listed a very expensive set of Harmy’s Despecialized edition blu-ray’s at the link above (at least he credited Harmy I guess…). From the looks of it, he has sold quite a few. Does the community actively look for and report these sellers? And if so, where would one post links in the forum for others to report them?
I’m not sure if this is the appropriate place for this, but since I’ve seen discussions regarding ebay sellers in this thread I thought I’d ask.
The above seller has listed a very expensive set of Harmy’s Despecialized edition blu-ray’s at the link above (at least he credited Harmy I guess…). From the looks of it, he has sold quite a few. Does the community actively look for and report these sellers? And if so, where would one post links in the forum for others to report them?
The community does report these sellers (I have reported that one). There was some discussion of this problem in this thread, but it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to these issues.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
It’s appalling enough that this jerk is trying to profit using other people’s hard work. The fact they are charging $190 for their “time and effort” making the set to order whilst insisting the buyer already own the official releases leaves me at loss for words. Like, I actually don’t know how to phrase how that makes me feel.
F**k you, "sellingstuffagain, or whatever your name is, I wish you a lifetime of warts, flatulence and bad breath.
And now there’s a website?!?
This is getting out of hand, is Harmy going to do nothing?!?!?
This is getting out of hand, is Harmy going to do nothing?!?!?
What can he do?
This is getting out of hand, is Harmy going to do nothing?!?!?
What can he do?
Call them out on his social media, Warn potential buyers, make downloading the DEED easier and more accessible.
Since he’s using some artwork I created, I’ve reported him as well. It’s guys like this that made me pull my box set off the web. They really ruin it for everyone.
-Ron
I’m not sure if this is the appropriate place for this, but since I’ve seen discussions regarding ebay sellers in this thread I thought I’d ask.
The above seller has listed a very expensive set of Harmy’s Despecialized edition blu-ray’s at the link above (at least he credited Harmy I guess…). From the looks of it, he has sold quite a few. Does the community actively look for and report these sellers? And if so, where would one post links in the forum for others to report them?
Since he’s using some artwork I created, I’ve reported him as well. It’s guys like this that made me pull my box set off the web. They really ruin it for everyone.
-Ron
I’m not sure if this is the appropriate place for this, but since I’ve seen discussions regarding ebay sellers in this thread I thought I’d ask.
The above seller has listed a very expensive set of Harmy’s Despecialized edition blu-ray’s at the link above (at least he credited Harmy I guess…). From the looks of it, he has sold quite a few. Does the community actively look for and report these sellers? And if so, where would one post links in the forum for others to report them?
Your artwork was really cool, I was planning to use it for my personal box set. These guys just want to ruin everything don’t they?
And now there’s a website?!?
a quick whois will likely show a few details - I imagine the hosts’ terms and conditions may be violated by this person(s) selling stuff like this… (and GoDaddy may not like to feel the wrath of Disney/Lucasfilm getting in contact) - and then handing over files to help ascertain just who is behind it…)
A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com
A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)
… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.
This is getting out of hand, is Harmy going to do nothing?!?!?
What can he do?
Call them out on his social media, Warn potential buyers, make downloading the DEED easier and more accessible.
It’s already pretty damn easy to people who know how to read.
This is getting out of hand, is Harmy going to do nothing?!?!?
What can he do?
Call them out on his social media, Warn potential buyers, make downloading the DEED easier and more accessible.
It’s already pretty damn easy to people who know how to read.
Yeah, downloading it is very easy. I think the barrier for many is the desire to have them on discs with labels in a nice box, etc… For many, the work required to get all that is either too hard or just more involved than they’d like. For those people, buying a finished product is the most attractive option.
Obviously, that doesn’t make what the sellers are doing even close to being okay.
And now there’s a website?!?
They did a lot of LDS in the 60’s.
And now there’s a website?!?
a quick whois will likely show a few details - I imagine the hosts’ terms and conditions may be violated by this person(s) selling stuff like this… (and GoDaddy may not like to feel the wrath of Disney/Lucasfilm getting in contact) - and then handing over files to help ascertain just who is behind it…)
Looks like they registered through DomainsByProxy to keep their information hidden. I wonder why they think they would want to keep themselves hidden… \s
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=ldsentertainment.com
Should we start a dedicated thread for this sort of thing instead of polluting this one?
I find it extremely ironic that the whole website is copyright protected…what an asshat
And now there’s a website?!?
a quick whois will likely show a few details - I imagine the hosts’ terms and conditions may be violated by this person(s) selling stuff like this… (and GoDaddy may not like to feel the wrath of Disney/Lucasfilm getting in contact) - and then handing over files to help ascertain just who is behind it…)
Looks like they registered through DomainsByProxy to keep their information hidden. I wonder why they think they would want to keep themselves hidden… \s
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=ldsentertainment.com
Should we start a dedicated thread for this sort of thing instead of polluting this one?
A whole section would be more appropriate for this.
And now there’s a website?!?
a quick whois will likely show a few details - I imagine the hosts’ terms and conditions may be violated by this person(s) selling stuff like this… (and GoDaddy may not like to feel the wrath of Disney/Lucasfilm getting in contact) - and then handing over files to help ascertain just who is behind it…)
Looks like they registered through DomainsByProxy to keep their information hidden. I wonder why they think they would want to keep themselves hidden… \s
I resolved the IP Address to 86.96.202.168 using an ssl server lookup. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=ldsentertainment.com
Running a whois found the following info regarding contact info for abuse:
person: Abdulla Hashim
address: Emirates Telecommunication Corporation
address: P.O. Box 1150, Dubai, UAE
phone: +971 4 3717272
fax-no: +971 4 2959876
remarks: For any kind of abuse orignating from our network please
remarks: email abuse@emirates.net.ae
Damn it, don’t they know I’ve got better Arabic subtitles in the works? Have they no shame?