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Warbler said:

To not know about Spock, you have to be totally unconnected to civilization or in a coma or something like that.

I don’t think the people Handman were talking about were totally unconnected to civilization. People just know about certain things and don’t know about other things. I could rattle off some people are very important to me but you have never heard of.

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Warbler said:

To not know about Spock, you have to be totally unconnected to civilization or in a coma or something like that.

People did occasionally get Mr. Spock mixed up with the famous pediatrician and book author Benjamin Spock. If I had a nickel for every time some reporter called Mr. Spock Dr. Spock.

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btw, even if Eccleston had no idea what Doctor Who was, there was this little thing he could have done to find out, it called: research.

heck the internet existed when he took the role. This was in 2005. This forum existed back then. All he would have had to do is type Doctor Who into a search engine(they were around back then).

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Warbler said:

yhwx said:

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Handman said:

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SilverWook said:

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doubleofive said:

Maybe Eccleston didn’t believe the reboot of Doctor Who was actually going to work. Think about how little Patrick Stewart was prepared for Star Trek: The Next Generation for the first couple years. It’s just a TV show to some, most eventually grow to love the role, but some just don’t.

I think there’s been a tradition since TNG of giving the casts of the newer Treks a friendly warning/heads up of the craziness that’s about to enter their lives.

If they have any brains, they shouldn’t need a warning. Everyone not living under huge boulder knows what Star Trek is.

Yes, but nothing can prepare you for Trekkers showing up in costume in the audience at the Shakespeare play you’re in. That actually happened to Stewart.

oh how horrible. He had to put up with people in the audience in star costumes. btw, you do realize that after doing the tv series and 4 movies, Stewart made enough money from it that he wouldn’t have to work another day for the rest of his life, right?

If you aren’t expecting it (can’t imagine why you would), it would certainly catch you off guard.

Unless they were being disruptive in the audience, I don’t see the big deal. What does it matter to the actor what the audience is wearing? Just perform the play.

It’s uncomfortable for some people. Sometimes they want to be remembered for more than just one TV show or movie they did.

Then I would suggest those people stay away from things like Star Trek, Star Wars, and Doctor Who.

Being aware of Trek as a tv show or film franchise does not mean you’ve looked deeply into the fandom. (A few were fans before being cast in later Trek incarnations, but most are just hard working actors.) Even Star Wars is just a movie to some folks.

I’m sorry but I disagree. Unless you’ve lived all your life on deserted island with absolutely no contact with the outside world, you have to know that both Star Trek and Star Wars have a huge devoted and somewhat crazy fan bases. It is not like there never been a Star Trek convention before NextGen.

I’ve had to explain to many people who Spock is. It’s crazy how small everything is in context of the larger world.

YOU’VE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHO SPOCK IS‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ Who the heck are these people and where have they been for the past 50 years‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ My God.

Regular people.

no,no,no,no. Regular people know about Spock. He’s iconic. Regular people might know about Sybok or Sonak

Regular people absolutely do not know about Sybok or Sonak. Hell, I have no idea who Sonak is. I think Sybok is Spock’s dad…? So maybe Sonak is Spock’s mom, although I thought she was human so maybe that’s her Vulcan name.

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Often times I click on the thread but don’t read any of the posts so that blue mark doesn’t gnaw at me.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Handman said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

doubleofive said:

Maybe Eccleston didn’t believe the reboot of Doctor Who was actually going to work. Think about how little Patrick Stewart was prepared for Star Trek: The Next Generation for the first couple years. It’s just a TV show to some, most eventually grow to love the role, but some just don’t.

I think there’s been a tradition since TNG of giving the casts of the newer Treks a friendly warning/heads up of the craziness that’s about to enter their lives.

If they have any brains, they shouldn’t need a warning. Everyone not living under huge boulder knows what Star Trek is.

Yes, but nothing can prepare you for Trekkers showing up in costume in the audience at the Shakespeare play you’re in. That actually happened to Stewart.

oh how horrible. He had to put up with people in the audience in star costumes. btw, you do realize that after doing the tv series and 4 movies, Stewart made enough money from it that he wouldn’t have to work another day for the rest of his life, right?

If you aren’t expecting it (can’t imagine why you would), it would certainly catch you off guard.

Unless they were being disruptive in the audience, I don’t see the big deal. What does it matter to the actor what the audience is wearing? Just perform the play.

It’s uncomfortable for some people. Sometimes they want to be remembered for more than just one TV show or movie they did.

Then I would suggest those people stay away from things like Star Trek, Star Wars, and Doctor Who.

Being aware of Trek as a tv show or film franchise does not mean you’ve looked deeply into the fandom. (A few were fans before being cast in later Trek incarnations, but most are just hard working actors.) Even Star Wars is just a movie to some folks.

I’m sorry but I disagree. Unless you’ve lived all your life on deserted island with absolutely no contact with the outside world, you have to know that both Star Trek and Star Wars have a huge devoted and somewhat crazy fan bases. It is not like there never been a Star Trek convention before NextGen.

I’ve had to explain to many people who Spock is. It’s crazy how small everything is in context of the larger world.

YOU’VE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHO SPOCK IS‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ Who the heck are these people and where have they been for the past 50 years‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ My God.

Regular people.

no,no,no,no. Regular people know about Spock. He’s iconic. Regular people might know about Sybok or Sonak

Regular people absolutely do not know about Sybok or Sonak. Hell, I have no idea who Sonak is. I think Sybok is Spock’s dad…? So maybe Sonak is Spock’s mom, although I thought she was human so maybe that’s her Vulcan name.

Sarek is Spock’s Dad.

Sybok is Spock’s half brother.

Sonak is the Vulcan scientist that gets killed in the transporter accident in TMP.

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Jesus Christ warb, you know it’s a tv show and he’s an actor right? Holy fuck man the guys life doesn’t revolve around your enjoyment of a special episode of a tv series. And he owes you no explanation.

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Handman said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

doubleofive said:

Maybe Eccleston didn’t believe the reboot of Doctor Who was actually going to work. Think about how little Patrick Stewart was prepared for Star Trek: The Next Generation for the first couple years. It’s just a TV show to some, most eventually grow to love the role, but some just don’t.

I think there’s been a tradition since TNG of giving the casts of the newer Treks a friendly warning/heads up of the craziness that’s about to enter their lives.

If they have any brains, they shouldn’t need a warning. Everyone not living under huge boulder knows what Star Trek is.

Yes, but nothing can prepare you for Trekkers showing up in costume in the audience at the Shakespeare play you’re in. That actually happened to Stewart.

oh how horrible. He had to put up with people in the audience in star costumes. btw, you do realize that after doing the tv series and 4 movies, Stewart made enough money from it that he wouldn’t have to work another day for the rest of his life, right?

If you aren’t expecting it (can’t imagine why you would), it would certainly catch you off guard.

Unless they were being disruptive in the audience, I don’t see the big deal. What does it matter to the actor what the audience is wearing? Just perform the play.

It’s uncomfortable for some people. Sometimes they want to be remembered for more than just one TV show or movie they did.

Then I would suggest those people stay away from things like Star Trek, Star Wars, and Doctor Who.

Being aware of Trek as a tv show or film franchise does not mean you’ve looked deeply into the fandom. (A few were fans before being cast in later Trek incarnations, but most are just hard working actors.) Even Star Wars is just a movie to some folks.

I’m sorry but I disagree. Unless you’ve lived all your life on deserted island with absolutely no contact with the outside world, you have to know that both Star Trek and Star Wars have a huge devoted and somewhat crazy fan bases. It is not like there never been a Star Trek convention before NextGen.

I’ve had to explain to many people who Spock is. It’s crazy how small everything is in context of the larger world.

YOU’VE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHO SPOCK IS‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ Who the heck are these people and where have they been for the past 50 years‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ My God.

Regular people.

no,no,no,no. Regular people know about Spock. He’s iconic. Regular people might know about Sybok or Sonak

Regular people absolutely do not know about Sybok or Sonak. Hell, I have no idea who Sonak is. I think Sybok is Spock’s dad…? So maybe Sonak is Spock’s mom, although I thought she was human so maybe that’s her Vulcan name.

Even I’m shocked I know who Sonak is. Probably because the nightmarish transporter accident scene in TMP is burned into my brain. No wonder McCoy hates those contraptions.

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Possessed said:

Jesus Christ warb, you know it’s a tv show and he’s an actor right? Holy fuck man the guys life doesn’t revolve around your enjoyment of a special episode of a tv series. And he owes you no explanation.

All of this.

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Possessed said:

Jesus Christ warb, you know it’s a tv show and he’s an actor right? Holy fuck man the guys life doesn’t revolve around your enjoyment of a special episode of a tv series. And he owes you no explanation.

Yes I know it is a tv show and he’s an actor. But this isn’t just any ordinary tv show an the Doctor is no ordinary role. He that when he took the role.

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Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Jesus Christ warb, you know it’s a tv show and he’s an actor right? Holy fuck man the guys life doesn’t revolve around your enjoyment of a special episode of a tv series. And he owes you no explanation.

Yes I know it is a tv show and he’s an actor.

This

But this isn’t just any ordinary tv show an the Doctor is no ordinary role. He that when he took the role.

proves that even if you know it, you don’t understand it.

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Just because it’s more than a tv show to you doesn’t mean it has to be for the actors involved. When they cast you to be the doctor, you are absolutely free to return for the anniversaries.

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I’ve met many people who don’t know anything about Star Trek, including my wife. And even more people who hadn’t seen Star Wars. And even more people who have never heard of Doctor Who. Heck, I’ve met one person who hadn’t even heard of Jesus Christ… thought “B.C.” stood for “before the crisis”. Not everyone thinks that Doctor Who is as big a deal as us nerds do.

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I’m suddenly reminded of an 80’s SNL skit where a dating service video turns into an elaborate musical production, and one main requirement in a potential mate is being into Star Trek. 😉

Also, some of around here meet the strangest people.

Where were you in '77?