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I think it’s when your religion tells you to give alcohol to your baby.
My brand of Christianity doesn’t do that.
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I think it’s when your religion tells you to give alcohol to your baby.
My brand of Christianity doesn’t do that.
Hmmm…are you sure?
Maybe you’ve misinterpreted the Bible.
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No baby at my church has been given alcohol.
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Really? I thought it was in Deuteronomy.
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He may have discovered repressed fears or insecurities with regard to a woman being in a position of leadership. It could have been any number of reasons.
I don’t think I have any fears of woman being in a position of leadership. Many times a woman has been by boss and/or immediate supervisor. I never had problem with it.
He’s also openly stated his decision to try to grow emotionally.
I did? I guess it is not a bad idea but where did I state this?
In his case, soul searching with regard to a TV show may seem trivial on the surface but the show was really just the trigger to look at much deeper issues.
I don’t know about that, please don’t make more of this than it really is.
Warbler, I hope you stay on for the ride. Personally, I’m hoping for a little less silliness and a little less all time & existence depends on this episode type stories. I’m wanting to get back to some of the better one-of stories. Fingers crossed Ms Whittaker and Mr Chibnall want the same.
One thing I will stand firm on: no sonic sunglasses, no sonic anything but a screwdriver.
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Really? I thought it was in Deuteronomy.
We are not required to follow every single thing in the old testament.
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*sigh*
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Hint: they’re not being serious.
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After I watched the 50th anniversary and 2013 christmas specials, I swore to myself that I was never going to watch the show again and I’ve never looked back.
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No baby at my church has been given alcohol.
Well obviously not when you’re looking.
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After I watched the 50th anniversary and 2013 christmas specials, I swore to myself that I was never going to watch the show again and I’ve never looked back.
You didn’t like the 50th anniversary special? why?
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After I watched the 50th anniversary and 2013 christmas specials, I swore to myself that I was never going to watch the show again and I’ve never looked back.
You didn’t like the 50th anniversary special? why?
I’ll try to give the short version.
It came off to me as something that was heavily studio influenced by the BBC to keep the show going on forever for their own selfish agendas by retconning nearly everything Russel T Davies and the classic series established.
I also didn’t like the idea of the War Doctor.
Also, nothing of what you see in the 2013 Christmas special is what Steven Moffat (who ruined the show) had in mind for the eleventh doctor era from the beginning.
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I also didn’t like the idea of the War Doctor.
Yeah, but it’s John Hurt!
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I also didn’t like the idea of the War Doctor.
Yeah, but it’s John Hurt!
It didn’t matter to me. The War Doctor was a terrible idea on Steven Moffat’s part that retconned what Russel T Davies established and it seemed to me that the BBC brought John Hurt in to “sweeten” the idea.
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Well, I will say that while I liked it, it felt more like an anniversary special for the new series rather than an anniversary special for Doctor Who itself.
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After I watched the 50th anniversary and 2013 christmas specials, I swore to myself that I was never going to watch the show again and I’ve never looked back.
You didn’t like the 50th anniversary special? why?
I’ll try to give the short version.
It came off to me as something that was heavily studio influenced by the BBC to keep the show going on forever for their own selfish agendas by retconning nearly everything Russel T Davies and the classic series established.
It retconned nearly everything from the classic series??? How so?
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After I watched the 50th anniversary and 2013 christmas specials, I swore to myself that I was never going to watch the show again and I’ve never looked back.
You didn’t like the 50th anniversary special? why?
I’ll try to give the short version.
It came off to me as something that was heavily studio influenced by the BBC to keep the show going on forever for their own selfish agendas by retconning nearly everything Russel T Davies and the classic series established.
It retconned nearly everything from the classic series??? How so?
My mistake, not everything from the classic series, just on how regeneration was established.
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There will never not be a day I resent Moffat for not making McGann the War Doctor.
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There will never not be a day I resent Moffat for not making McGann the War Doctor.
That could have worked as it would have been a sublime contrast to have the optimistic romantic 8th Doctor turn into a hardened and broken pessimist who is renewed as the guilt stricken but jolly 9th.
Alternatively I would have made the War Doctor a warrior woman (like Leela or Xena) and be very violent.
That way you would have got the whole Doctor can’t turn female thing out of the way and made the War Doctor something he would rather regret. Not because of the gender but because of the violence. Hurt’s War Doctor is just another Doctor. He’s much less prickly than some of the classic ones. There seems very little justification in him removing him from his own memory.
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I’ve seen it suggested that the BBC wouldn’t go for McGann for the 50th, but who knows if that’s true. If anyone is to be blamed for the War Doctor, it’s Chris Eccleston. Though he’s well within his rights to want nothing to do with the show, it’s obviously different than every other actor who has had the role.
The War Doctor was well done, even if a bit of a wonky idea in the first place. Steven gave us Night of the Doctor, and I’ll always be happy about that.
He gets a lot of hate, but he stepped in to do this year’s Christmas Special after Chibnall passed on it (Steven was quitting after episode 12). They could have lost their timeslot and never had one again. While I am a fan of Chibnall’s casting decision, this Christmas move has given me some serious doubt about how he’s going to do as showrunner.
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just on how regeneration was established.
please elaborate.
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I’ve seen it suggested that the BBC wouldn’t go for McGann for the 50th, but who knows if that’s true. If anyone is to be blamed for the War Doctor, it’s Chris Eccleston. Though he’s well within his rights to want nothing to do with the show, it’s obviously different than every other actor who has had the role.
I disagree. He knew when he took the part of the Doctor what kind of role he was taking. He knew about the Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, and The Two Doctors. He knew about the legacy surrounding that part. If you are unwilling to take part in anniversary specials, you shouldn’t take the role in the first place. His absence from the 50th anniversary special is glaring.
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I’ve seen it suggested that the BBC wouldn’t go for McGann for the 50th, but who knows if that’s true. If anyone is to be blamed for the War Doctor, it’s Chris Eccleston. Though he’s well within his rights to want nothing to do with the show, it’s obviously different than every other actor who has had the role.
I disagree. He knew when he took the part of the Doctor what kind of role he was taking. He knew about the Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, and The Two Doctors. He knew about the legacy surrounding that part. If you are unwilling to take part in anniversary specials, you shouldn’t take the role in the first place. His absence from the 50th anniversary special is glaring.
He’s just an actor in a role. His responsibility is for the length of his contract. Fans might see it differently, but he is of course not a fan of the show and had a bad experience working on it.
As highly as we regard it, it is still just a TV show, and just a job, for many people. I’ll agree that he is not a good fit for the show, even if his performances were fine.
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I’ve seen it suggested that the BBC wouldn’t go for McGann for the 50th, but who knows if that’s true. If anyone is to be blamed for the War Doctor, it’s Chris Eccleston. Though he’s well within his rights to want nothing to do with the show, it’s obviously different than every other actor who has had the role.
I disagree. He knew when he took the part of the Doctor what kind of role he was taking. He knew about the Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, and The Two Doctors. He knew about the legacy surrounding that part. If you are unwilling to take part in anniversary specials, you shouldn’t take the role in the first place. His absence from the 50th anniversary special is glaring.
He’s just an actor in a role. His responsibility is for the length of his contract.
I disagree. For normal roles, that is the case. The Doctor isn’t a normal role. Doctor Who isn’t a normal tv show. There is a legacy surrounding this show and that part. IMO, if you agree to take the role, it is your responsibility to appear in the anniversary specials. You don’t want to do that? Don’t take the role in the first place.
Fans might see it differently, but he is of course not a fan of the show and had a bad experience working on it.
If I am not mistaken, whatever people he had the bad experience with, were probably no longer with show by the time of the 50th anniversary. Btw, just what was the bad experience? Does anyone know?
As highly as we regard it, it is still just a TV show,
It is not a just a TV show, anymore than Star Wars is just a movie. The Fallguy was just a TV show, Falling Down was just a movie. Doctor Who and Star Wars are bit different than that.
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just on how regeneration was established.
please elaborate.
Not counting the EU, the classic series established 12 regenerations, no more no less, and then that was the end. While the closest thing a Time Lord could control was their appearance; Night of the Doctor comes along claiming to engineer the Doctor into a “warrior” and that the ninth, tenth, and eleventh incarnations were in name only.
With the 2013 Christmas special, the long awaiting of looking forward to the final thirteenth incarnation where his death would be on Trenzalore, the prophecy of
"the oldest question in the universe would be asked…" (Clara read the book w/ the Doctors name in Journey to the Center of the TARDIS then had flashbacks of it in The Name of the Doctor) with the Silence, and the Doctors future encounter with Lorna Bucket was all thrown in the trash when the BBC made the changes in the 50th anniversary special. It was a sorry excuse of trying to wrap it all up.