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DuracellEnergizer said:

TK-949 said:

I liked everything about DS9. Best ST series so far.

Definitely agree with your second statement. My beef with the Klingons aside, DS9 managed to completely realize its full potential, something TOS & TNG never managed to achieve.

What is your beef with the Klingons?

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Warbler said:

pittrek said:
but even if he would do something like classic rock, I would still find it annoying. Just like Uhura’s singing in TOS - I love Nichelle and her voice, but it just doesn’t fit to Trek.

  1. What about Seven of Nine’s singing? (see my link above)

  2. Why doesn’t it fit to Trek, You don’t think the songs that Vic was singing would make to the 23rd/24th century?

Long story short - song breaks belong to musicals ( IMHO ).

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Well, I could link to a clip of Spock jamming with those space hippies, but that would violate the Geneva Convention. 😉

Where were you in '77?

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Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

TK-949 said:

I liked everything about DS9. Best ST series so far.

Definitely agree with your second statement. My beef with the Klingons aside, DS9 managed to completely realize its full potential, something TOS & TNG never managed to achieve.

What is your beef with the Klingons?

TNG+ Klingons are stupid, dirty, one-note barbarians who divide their time picking fights and yammering on about honour. I’m surprised these dolts know how to read and write let alone pilot interstellar ships.

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pittrek said:

Warbler said:

pittrek said:
but even if he would do something like classic rock, I would still find it annoying. Just like Uhura’s singing in TOS - I love Nichelle and her voice, but it just doesn’t fit to Trek.

  1. What about Seven of Nine’s singing? (see my link above)

  2. Why doesn’t it fit to Trek, You don’t think the songs that Vic was singing would make to the 23rd/24th century?

Long story short - song breaks belong to musicals ( IMHO ).

Doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjN8WDaPT8k

every once and while does not turn Star Trek into a musical. Vic sang when it made sense to sing. He was a hologram of a nightclub singer and he sang in a hologram of a night club. It is not the same as people suddenly breaking out in song in OPS or the bridge of the Defiant or something like that.

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The showrunner for Discovery has finally spoken up about their awful “Klingons”:

Aaron Roberts said:

In the different versions of Trek, the Klingons have never been completely consistent. We will introduce several different houses with different styles. Hopefully, fans will become more invested in the characters than worried about the redesign.

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Tried catching up on this thread from where I last visited, and all I’m hearing is: “DS9 sucks because…”; “Kelvin Timeline sucks because…”

et al. ad nauseum.

This is why I think Trek needed to be rebooted. Because trying to please the current fanbase was increasingly exceedingly difficult to accomplish.

It makes it hard to talk about why I like things if people keep blathering on about why they suck.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

It makes it hard to talk about why I like things if people keep blathering on about why they suck.

Welcome to the internet.

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Why do people care so much about what other people think about a TV show?

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TV’s Frink said:

Why do people care so much about what other people think about a TV show?

Why do people care about anything anyone ever says about anything?

Because that’s what relationship is. That’s what community is. People find friends more easily in things with which they have a common interest. It’s why this forum (or any forum) exists in the first place.

Honestly, I don’t see why you even asked that question.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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It is a valid point though. Why are you here, if not to hear what other people are saying?

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I just see someone getting all pissy because a bunch of people don’t like what he likes.

It’s not like Malaimperaan making ridiculous arguments about Star Wars, this is someone making no arguments at all other than “why doesn’t everyone like what I like?” So yeah I’m here to hear what other people are saying. but that’s not saying anything.

And if you’ve come here to make friends like he’s claiming, demanding they like what you like isn’t a great strategy.

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TV’s Frink said:

this is someone making no arguments at all other than “why doesn’t everyone like what I like?”

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying it’s a bummer that people seem to like to complain a lot–especially on the internet. (“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.” -Oscar Wilde)

I’m not saying people have to like what I like. I’m saying I like liking things; it’s harder to openly like them around people who dump on them; and I wish people talked more about what they like about Trek rather than what they hate about it.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

I’m saying I like liking things; it’s harder to openly like them around people who dump on them; and I wish people talked more about what they like about Trek rather than what they hate about it.

Seems like that’s your problem, but whatever ™.

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TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

I’m saying I like liking things; it’s harder to openly like them around people who dump on them; and I wish people talked more about what they like about Trek rather than what they hate about it.

Seems like that’s your problem, but whatever ™.

One doesn’t have to acknowledge it to be their problem for them to still have a problem. If someone has a sour attitude, it’s not necessarily just everyone else’s problem if said person doesn’t notice it in themselves nor care.

So no, it’s not my problem.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I liked Vic Fontaine a lot. I thought his character was done really well, especially compared to Whoopi Goldberg’s Guinan, whose acting talent was tragically underused in a lot of her appearances.

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chyron8472 said:

So no, it’s not my problem.

Perhaps someone else will agree with you but so far evidence points to the contrary.

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I can’t quite figure it out either. I thought he doesn’t like that people complain about Star Trek because it somehow prevents him from talking about the things he likes about Star Trek, but…

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